PARCEL #102 LONDON TUBING EDITION

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Re: PARCEL #102 LONDON TUBING EDITION

Post by heydaralon » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:00 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Thatcher only came around because they were running things that way and it had by 1979 simply run things into the ground. Much which the Left blames Thatcher for doing, they would have had no choice but to do themselves at some point, Thatcher simply got the mandate to do it from the public, because the Left was so beholden to the welfare state they simply would not do anyting to restrain it, even as it became dead weight dragging the country down into a crisis of decay and disorder, which quite frankly, the electorate by and large had simply become sick off; enter Thatcher, former fringe candidate, suddenly in the breach.

The Left are the ones who made her, simply by unmaking themselves in a default.
How bad was inflation for the UK in the 1970s?
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Re: PARCEL #102 LONDON TUBING EDITION

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:03 pm

heydaralon wrote:One thing that I think is cool about Thatcher is that she had a background in chemistry. She wasn't just some out of touch ivory tower academic. She had experience with practical real world stuff.
Perhaps the greatest thing about Thatcher was that she was not a professional policitian, I mean, she was married to a millioniare, she didn't need the job, the was just one the Silent Majority who decided that she had had enough, and if nobody else was going to do anything about it, well then she bloody well would and just let them try to stop her, and then, by the force of her own will and personality, simply made herself into the Iron Lady, which, she didn't name herself that, the Soviets did.
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Re: PARCEL #102 LONDON TUBING EDITION

Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:05 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Thatcher only came around because they were running things that way and it had by 1979 simply run things into the ground. Much which the Left blames Thatcher for doing, they would have had no choice but to do themselves at some point, Thatcher simply got the mandate to do it from the public, because the Left was so beholden to the welfare state they simply would not do anyting to restrain it, even as it became dead weight dragging the country down into a crisis of decay and disorder, which quite frankly, the electorate by and large had simply become sick off; enter Thatcher, former fringe candidate, suddenly in the breach.

The Left are the ones who made her, simply by unmaking themselves in a default.
How bad was inflation for the UK in the 1970s?
Shit on the streets bad from what I've seen. They literally weren't taking the trash anywhere. That's what happens when leftists are in control and fucking society. They don't take the trash out and oddly they choose to take their anger out on trash cans a lot. Mental illness. I think they even had a sheek vogue to wear plastic trash bags around iirc

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Post by heydaralon » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:07 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:Yeah idk. I know he was a friend of nationalist Islam just like we were with the Bath party before the Jewish break in 1996 but I doubt at any time he conceived of having a nation of porous borders. His brand of socialism would have encouraged native birth rates the same as Russia does now. It wouldn't have invlolved importing the third world the way these European socialists do now (as well as us.)
The grand mufti of Palestine was an admirer of National Socialism. The guys who came up with Ba'athism pretty much did what all the third world nationalists did in the 20th century. They basically ripped their ideas off from European thinkers. The Syrian Social Nationalist party was really big on a lot of Hitler's ideas too and communicated with Germany and Italian fascist movements during the 30s and 40s.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:08 pm

heydaralon wrote:How bad was inflation for the UK in the 1970s?
Umm, fluctuating around 16-24% maybe?
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Post by heydaralon » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:16 pm

Inflation in the US was also fucked during the 70's until Volcker worked some kind of magic recession spell in 81 that unfucked our shit. I wonder if the whole world was suffering inflation at the time or just the West.



Smitty are you a Keynes fan? I'm guessing not, but do you think his policies work for getting countries out of a Depression?
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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:20 pm

See, the things which these command economy Lefties conveniently try to ignore in order to castigate Thatcher for doing what had to be done, is that the British Empire was for all intents and purposes no more, oil had gone from under $20/barrel to over $100/barrel, and inflation had spiked to almost 25% in 1975 because the spending was not being kept in line with the means, reality bites Lefties, but an entirely centrally planned command economy socialist workers paradise, was simply not feasable, even in fact if that had been what the Silent Majority had been calling for, which they weren't actually; enter Thatcher.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:23 pm

heydaralon wrote:Smitty are you a Keynes fan? I'm guessing not, but do you think his policies work for getting countries out of a Depression?
Well, two questions, one, do I have the reserve currency and so can effectively print gold, and two, can I anihilate all my competitors in a total war so my state is the last man standing?
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Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:24 pm

heydaralon wrote:Inflation in the US was also fucked during the 70's until Volcker worked some kind of magic recession spell in 81 that unfucked our shit. I wonder if the whole world was suffering inflation at the time or just the West.



Smitty are you a Keynes fan? I'm guessing not, but do you think his policies work for getting countries out of a Depression?
Nixon took us off the standard and I guess cemented OPEC. I guess that's an accomplishment? Idk. Ask all the vets on the forum or something.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:29 pm

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heydaralon wrote:Inflation in the US was also fucked during the 70's until Volcker worked some kind of magic recession spell in 81 that unfucked our shit. I wonder if the whole world was suffering inflation at the time or just the West.



Smitty are you a Keynes fan? I'm guessing not, but do you think his policies work for getting countries out of a Depression?
Nixon took us off the standard and I guess cemented OPEC. I guess that's an accomplishment? Idk. Ask all the vets on the forum or something.
Was long since before that that oil was being traded in US dollars, King Dollah was actually first made the reserve currency when Britain was forced off the gold standard by World War One. Then they abandoned it again in the Depression, then again in World War Two, the gold standard collpased all on its own, the demands for runaway spending upon it. Nixon couldn't have forced the limiting the money supply by then even if he had wanted to.
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