Speaker to Animals wrote:Hopefully not more like Gabriel.
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C-Mag wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:Hopefully not more like Gabriel.
That's St. Michael.
This is St. Gabriel:
And the first angel sounded the trumpet, and there followed hail and fire, mingled with blood, and it was cast on the earth, and the third part of the earth was burnt up, and the third part of the trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
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No it does not help, but pretending that their suffering does not mean anything does not either. They have good reasons to be angry. It's just some do go just a teeny tiny bit overboard with it.SilverEagle wrote:So kicking and screaming nonsense while being racist towards white people helps? Please explain that! You don't heal a body with a deep wound by creating another deep wound.jbird4049 wrote:My parents were alive in the the 1950s. Hell, there are black people alive today who knew people who were lynched, and there are white people who did the lynchings still alive. And got away with it. It's not that long ago. One does not just flip a switch and make everything all better.SilverEagle wrote:
A majority of Blacks were either very young during those time frames (1960's) or where not even born yet. Same goes for the evil white people. So don't give me that line of bullshit. If we as a society want these things fixed......well I already laid that out for you. MLK would smack the shit out these BLM folks.
I do agree about MLK. He did much more, under tougher conditions.
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Speaker to Animals wrote:C-Mag wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:Hopefully not more like Gabriel.
That's St. Michael.
This is St. Gabriel:
I know, cast out the devil........... drain the swamp
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I just stated, and I must restate, that it was a national phenomenon, not just a Southern one. Racism did, and does, cross all lines of class and color. So all that lovey, often lethal, discrimination, although concentrated in the South, flourished throughout our entire country under both parties.Speaker to Animals wrote:jbird4049 wrote:You mean all those white people? And lynching was not just a thing in the South. It was just the most prevalent there.Speaker to Animals wrote:Strange how you hide responsibility for who was doing the lynching.
The democrats, clown. This is the typical blame shifting we see from the democrats. It's the southerners. It's the white people. No. It's the democrats.
The reasons for the white Southerners rejection of the Republican Party was it was the party of Lincoln and of the Reconstruction. It was the Party under which the South lost the Civil War, and was socially, and economically devastated. By default, that meant the Democratic Party dominated there, which also meant the virulent form of racial also infected the Party nationally.
For example, even though it was pushed through by the Democratic President FDR, when Social Security was pass, it only did so by excluding farm workers, and house maids as those jobs were primarily black. In part, because of Lincoln, and Reconstruction, blacks favored the Republican Party until the political realignment of the 1960s when the Democratic President LBJ got the Civil Rights laws on racism through Congress. With Nixon's Southern Strategy as an added enticement, the racists left the Democratic Party.
To be fair, it was also the, for those times, liberal, and reformist, nature of the Democratic Party, and not just its Civil Rights legislation, that pushed many into the Republican Party. The South is socially, as well as politically, the most conservative part of our nation.
Our entire country is tainted by racism past, and current, and not just the smaller part called the Democratic Party.
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All of your babble is complete bullshit. Everything that is happening right now in politics, propaganda, and the media has nothing to do with racism. It has everything to do with power. This country is not racially divided, it's divided over power and money, which in some cases are one in the same. There is no race war coming. Racism is decreasing every fucking generation. All of this is about the fucking Democrats losing an election and using every piece of manipulation they can to fuck up the Trump administration. This is the same thing that occurs every election, only this time the left is taking it farther than anyone ever has. Is it because Trump is not a politician? Is it because both parties are in shambles? Is this whole thing a vacuum? I don't have the answer, but I do have an answer to your bullshit that this is about race. Actually, no, I have a question. Why now? Why is all of this shit happening with race now? I already answered it, but what exactly is your answer? If you need a hint, it has to do with power.jbird4049 wrote:I just stated, and I must restate, that it was a national phenomenon, not just a Southern one. Racism did, and does, cross all lines of class and color. So all that lovey, often lethal, discrimination, although concentrated in the South, flourished throughout our entire country under both parties.Speaker to Animals wrote:jbird4049 wrote:
You mean all those white people? And lynching was not just a thing in the South. It was just the most prevalent there.
The democrats, clown. This is the typical blame shifting we see from the democrats. It's the southerners. It's the white people. No. It's the democrats.
The reasons for the white Southerners rejection of the Republican Party was it was the party of Lincoln and of the Reconstruction. It was the Party under which the South lost the Civil War, and was socially, and economically devastated. By default, that meant the Democratic Party dominated there, which also meant the virulent form of racial also infected the Party nationally.
For example, even though it was pushed through by the Democratic President FDR, when Social Security was pass, it only did so by excluding farm workers, and house maids as those jobs were primarily black. In part, because of Lincoln, and Reconstruction, blacks favored the Republican Party until the political realignment of the 1960s when the Democratic President LBJ got the Civil Rights laws on racism through Congress. With Nixon's Southern Strategy as an added enticement, the racists left the Democratic Party.
To be fair, it was also the, for those times, liberal, and reformist, nature of the Democratic Party, and not just its Civil Rights legislation, that pushed many into the Republican Party. The South is socially, as well as politically, the most conservative part of our nation.
Our entire country is tainted by racism past, and current, and not just the smaller part called the Democratic Party.
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The kind of virulent racism that was common in the past is nowhere near as common today. Today, for example, you cannot claim John Brown of Harper's Ferry was crazy because he treated blacks just the same as whites being a believer in actual true equality of the races, which they did. Well you could try. And lynching parties are now frowned on. But racism is very real and common. All you have to is look at the research on identical, except in name, job, and apartment, applications have much different acceptance, or approval rates.skankhunt42 wrote:All of your babble is complete bullshit. Everything that is happening right now in politics, propaganda, and the media has nothing to do with racism. It has everything to do with power. This country is not racially divided, it's divided over power and money, which in some cases are one in the same. There is no race war coming. Racism is decreasing every fucking generation. All of this is about the fucking Democrats losing an election and using every piece of manipulation they can to fuck up the Trump administration. This is the same thing that occurs every election, only this time the left is taking it farther than anyone ever has. Is it because Trump is not a politician? Is it because both parties are in shambles? Is this whole thing a vacuum? I don't have the answer, but I do have an answer to your bullshit that this is about race. Actually, no, I have a question. Why now? Why is all of this shit happening with race now? I already answered it, but what exactly is your answer? If you need a hint, it has to do with power.jbird4049 wrote:I just stated, and I must restate, that it was a national phenomenon, not just a Southern one. Racism did, and does, cross all lines of class and color. So all that lovey, often lethal, discrimination, although concentrated in the South, flourished throughout our entire country under both parties.Speaker to Animals wrote:
The democrats, clown. This is the typical blame shifting we see from the democrats. It's the southerners. It's the white people. No. It's the democrats.
The reasons for the white Southerners rejection of the Republican Party was it was the party of Lincoln and of the Reconstruction. It was the Party under which the South lost the Civil War, and was socially, and economically devastated. By default, that meant the Democratic Party dominated there, which also meant the virulent form of racial also infected the Party nationally.
For example, even though it was pushed through by the Democratic President FDR, when Social Security was pass, it only did so by excluding farm workers, and house maids as those jobs were primarily black. In part, because of Lincoln, and Reconstruction, blacks favored the Republican Party until the political realignment of the 1960s when the Democratic President LBJ got the Civil Rights laws on racism through Congress. With Nixon's Southern Strategy as an added enticement, the racists left the Democratic Party.
To be fair, it was also the, for those times, liberal, and reformist, nature of the Democratic Party, and not just its Civil Rights legislation, that pushed many into the Republican Party. The South is socially, as well as politically, the most conservative part of our nation.
Our entire country is tainted by racism past, and current, and not just the smaller part called the Democratic Party.
Yes, the Democratic Party, bless their corrupt little hearts, are using charges of racism, or blaming the deplorables because it works, and because it allows them to think why much of their own base, which includes people like me, either did not vote for them, or only voted for Clinton because of the Orange One.
The Republican Party, bless their crooked black hearts, call poor whites, and blacks, lazy, or welfare moochers, because that too allow them not to think too hard.
Well to Hell with them. They have perverted, corrupted, even debased us in both enriching themselves while really enriching the 0.01%. And yes racism is a thing, and yes, some abuse the charge. To Hell to both too.
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Here is a hint... the Republican Party was created to abolish slavery... what does that mean? Democrats were the original slave owners...
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A lot of their suffering is their own doing.jbird4049 wrote:No it does not help, but pretending that their suffering does not mean anything does not either. They have good reasons to be angry. It's just some do go just a teeny tiny bit overboard with it.SilverEagle wrote:So kicking and screaming nonsense while being racist towards white people helps? Please explain that! You don't heal a body with a deep wound by creating another deep wound.jbird4049 wrote:
My parents were alive in the the 1950s. Hell, there are black people alive today who knew people who were lynched, and there are white people who did the lynchings still alive. And got away with it. It's not that long ago. One does not just flip a switch and make everything all better.
I do agree about MLK. He did much more, under tougher conditions.
A teeny tiny bit overboard? You can't be serious? So rioting, looting, beating up white people, and threatening to kill white people is going a teeny tiny bit overboard? Okay you've just lost any credibility. Oh and putting your words in large bold print does not make them true. If anything it reeks of desperation.
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Indeed. And all people on the Right have lynched at least 1-2 brown people. It's a common coming-of-age practice here, in the US.SilverEagle wrote:A lot of their suffering is their own doing.jbird4049 wrote:No it does not help, but pretending that their suffering does not mean anything does not either. They have good reasons to be angry. It's just some do go just a teeny tiny bit overboard with it.SilverEagle wrote:
So kicking and screaming nonsense while being racist towards white people helps? Please explain that! You don't heal a body with a deep wound by creating another deep wound.
A teeny tiny bit overboard? You can't be serious? So rioting, looting, beating up white people, and threatening to kill white people is going a teeny tiny bit overboard? Okay you've just lost any credibility. Oh and putting your words in large bold print does not make them true. If anything it reeks of desperation.