Unite the Right

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:06 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
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And it's made Canada a lovely pet. It's like a happy dog that chews on our slippers once in a while. ;)
Well, the point was indeed to take the edge off of everything, nationalism, militarism, sectarianism, all that sort of thing, and it has turned Canada into a Beta country. On the other hand, it's nice and quiet, which, I'm not really looking for anybody to stir up a ruckus, that's a pain in the ass.
I envy that. Still a prospective Canadian, in my mind, even though I won't be emigrating for a few more decades.
Well the other thing here in Canada is that we have the French, and we have the Natives, and we never did actually subjugate them under our bootheels, it's a confederation not a republic, so we have to be more careful about stirring shit up like you Americans do, because there's not the same sort of "supremacy clause" here, if the French and Natives get riled up, all heck would break loose, and not just a handful of white supremacists, so we just leave well enough alone, in the name of the Queen's Peace.

This really is the confederacy which won the war and lived to tell the tale, but confederacy means "gentleman's agreement", so you don't go poking that with a stick to stir up a hornets nest, or a least, we don't.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by ssu » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:13 pm

Smitty-48 wrote: Well the other thing here in Canada is that we have the French, and we have the Natives, and we never did actually subjugate them under our bootheels, it's a condeferation not a republic, so we have to be more careful about stirring shit up like you Americans do, because there's not the same sort of "supremacy clause" here, if the French and Natives get riled up, all heck would break loose, and not just a handful of white supremacists, so we just leave well enough alone, in the name of the Queen's Peace.
Seldom people know this outside Canada...

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(Btw, that Huey looks like a RC helicopter. Canadian defence cuts?

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by clubgop » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:18 pm

ssu wrote:
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The Conservative wrote:Yup!
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Pls kill each other?

The prevailing thought in Weimar Germany, actually. But then of course it was different. They weren't clowns vs freaks back then, but a fresh new way of looking at the World. People back then took seriously these things.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:19 pm

ssu wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:Yup!
I endorse this message.
Pls kill each other?

The prevailing thought in Weimar Germany, actually. But then of course it was different. They weren't clowns vs freaks back then, but a fresh new way of looking at the World. People back then took seriously these things.
Be more clear.

Are you saying that Nazis rose to power because "good men did nothing"? Does that leave AntiFa as a legitimate response, in your opinion?
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:21 pm

ssu wrote: (Btw, that Huey looks like a RC helicopter. Canadian defence cuts?
It's a UH-1H Iroquois, same as they used in Vietnam. The Canadian defence budget in 1970 was massive compared to what it is now, for all the caterwauling about Pierre Trudeau cutting the military, he actually spent huge compared to what we spend now.

The big collapse in Canadian defence spending really kicked in with Chretien in the 1990's, under the auspices of a Cold War Peace Dividend. Mind you, all those spending cuts did take Canada from a deep decifit to a surplus, so it's not like fiscal hawk conservatives were really all that bent out of shape about it, the Cold War was over after all.

That's the thing about us Canadian Tories, we're more fiscal hawk than we are hawkity hawk, we don't like any government spending, and unlike in America, the military doesn't get a pass, in fact, since the conventional military threats to Canada are minimal, the military is the first thing to get chucked under the bus, Liberal, Conservative, same-same.

Canadians still like their pork in the districts mind you, but they have no use for military pork, they want public service pork, but if you want to cut that public service pork, you can't give the military a pass, so before you can get to the public sector unions, first you have to cut the easy target.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by ssu » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:54 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Be more clear.

Are you saying that Nazis rose to power because "good men did nothing"? Does that leave AntiFa as a legitimate response, in your opinion?
Depends what you mean by "AntiFa response". There's nothing wrong in counterdemonstrations as with demonstrations, but violence is a threat to the whole political system. I think that Trump just terribly bumbled in getting this message through (if he had it in mind, I don't know). Once it's a "new normal" that political sides can have their bullies on the streets who go off at each other from time to time, somebody saying that the democratic process ought to be non-violent is likely dismissed as being "naive" and "out of touch with reality". Then you have the real problem. You see the problem is that people adapt easily to any kind of situation.

And Weimar Germany? People forget that socialism was new back then and national socialism looked as a valid option for many. And lots of people thought that you could have the communists fighting the nazis and vice versa and somehow things wouldn't get out of control, but the two would just fight each other. That just came to my mind from the picture.

Yet it doesn't go that way. Once you have political violence, you have a problem. A major problem.

But then it was different, Germany had it's Spartacist Uprising, a Bavarian Socialist Republic, Beer Hall putsch's and all that.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:57 pm

Nobody wants to admit that the reason the Nazis came to power was that the German left was far worse.

Same thing happened in Spain. And Chile. And probably in most other places that fascism came about.

Something to ponder..

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Ex-California » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:00 pm

Kazmyr wrote:
apeman wrote:
Kazmyr wrote:
Shockingly, no. I don't worship at the altar of 'FAHKIN' DUNKS, DOOHD.'

Maybe that's why I don't belong here?
aww come on buddy, I know better
It's more so StA doesn't think I'm some damned dirty Yankee infiltrator. I guess it's good I spent some of my formative years outside the northeast, so I don't sound like some doohguykhed from Southie.
California wrote: Hey man, I don't get the big deal about In N Out so your not alone with not fitting in with your regional junk food

But I'll fight over Mexican food
Isn't In N Out just burgers with some stupid, hipster secret handshake to get your burger done up in extra ways?
Its actually a really old fashioned place with a tiny menu that hasn't changed since the 50s. The "secret menu" was always there but the internet turned up the volume to full retard

They are a Christian (Mormon?) company that treats their workers really well. They are family-owned and not franchised, and it is regional so they can keep their supply lines close enough to never freeze anything. They don't hire the kind of people that usually work at fast food and pay them about double or more what minimum wage is. Management gets 6 figure salaries and yearly company retreats/vacations.

Don't get me wrong, they make a good burger, but the fanboy shit is annoying
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Ex-California » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:00 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Nobody wants to admit that the reason the Nazis came to power was that the German left was far worse.

Same thing happened in Spain. And Chile. And probably in most other places that fascism came about.

Something to ponder..
We're seeing this starting here.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by apeman » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:04 pm

California wrote:
Kazmyr wrote:
apeman wrote:
aww come on buddy, I know better
It's more so StA doesn't think I'm some damned dirty Yankee infiltrator. I guess it's good I spent some of my formative years outside the northeast, so I don't sound like some doohguykhed from Southie.
California wrote: Hey man, I don't get the big deal about In N Out so your not alone with not fitting in with your regional junk food

But I'll fight over Mexican food
Isn't In N Out just burgers with some stupid, hipster secret handshake to get your burger done up in extra ways?
Its actually a really old fashioned place with a tiny menu that hasn't changed since the 50s. The "secret menu" was always there but the internet turned up the volume to full retard

They are a Christian (Mormon?) company that treats their workers really well. They are family-owned and not franchised, and it is regional so they can keep their supply lines close enough to never freeze anything. They don't hire the kind of people that usually work at fast food and pay them about double or more what minimum wage is. Management gets 6 figure salaries and yearly company retreats/vacations.

Don't get me wrong, they make a good burger, but the fanboy shit is annoying
That explains a lot, thanks