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Re: North Korea News

Post by StCapps » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:20 am

Smitty-48 wrote:They're not going to miss Los Angeles, San Francisco or Seattle, they're not down to quarter mile accuracy, but they can hit the broadside of a barn, so, Los Angeles County, the Bay Area, well within their range already. With 25 kilotons, simply seeking mass casaulties, precision accuracy is not required.
Nonsense, the US would have taken them out already if that was the case. The North Koreans won't hit shit, and you know it, the media wouldn't talk about anything else if the opposite were true. If they can reliably nuke LA as we speak, then they have already crossed the threshold and the US sat back and did nothing, fat chance.

The intelligence community made up WMD in Iraq to jump the gun and invade Iraq, but they slept on North Korea nuclear capabilities to the point that Los Angeles can be taken out? Nice try.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:23 am

StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:They're not going to miss Los Angeles, San Francisco or Seattle, they're not down to quarter mile accuracy, but they can hit the broadside of a barn, so, Los Angeles County, the Bay Area, well within their range already. With 25 kilotons, simply seeking mass casaulties, precision accuracy is not required.
Nonsense, the US would have taken them out already if that was the case. The North Koreans won't hit shit, and you know it, the media wouldn't talk about anything else if the opposite were true.
The crisis hasn't come yet, the North Koreans are not ensured against counterforce, they won't begin the escalation dominance nuclear blackmail until they are fully broken out, and since the Americans are asleep at the switch, there's no rush right now, they are assuming that the Americans will not preempt them with counterforce before they can break out, they're banking on it.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by StCapps » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:26 am

Smitty-48 wrote:The crisis hasn't come yet, the North Koreans are not ensured against counterforce, they won't begin the escalation dominance nuclear blackmail until they are fully broken out, and since the Americans are asleep at the switch, there's no rush right now, they are assuming that the Americans will not preempt them with counterforce before they can break out, they're banking on it.
That's a stupid plan, how did that work out for Iraq?

They didn't even have any WMD, America still pretended they did as an excuse to invade, why are they so sure America won't make shit up to justify taking them out before they break out? Why are they sure that the US won't catch on, even if they don't decide to make up an excuse to bomb the shit out of them that isn't even true? Dumbest plan ever, banking on the US to not attack because you have WMD, that's a joke.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:29 am

StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:The crisis hasn't come yet, the North Koreans are not ensured against counterforce, they won't begin the escalation dominance nuclear blackmail until they are fully broken out, and since the Americans are asleep at the switch, there's no rush right now, they are assuming that the Americans will not preempt them with counterforce before they can break out, they're banking on it.
That's a stupid plan, how did that work out for Iraq? They didn't even have any WMD, America still pretended they did as an excuse to invade, why are they so sure America won't make shit up to justify taking them out before they break out?
Iraq was never anywhere near this threshold, the Isrealis preempted them with counterforce straight out of the gate, the Iraqi nuclear program never got off the ground, because Tel Aviv killed it in its crib.

The Americans are in no position to invade North Korea, because the North Koreans have the bombs already, they can deliver battlefield tactical with ease, the Americans cannot drive an invasion force into that kill zone, they would be decimated.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by StCapps » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:32 am

Smitty-48 wrote:The Americans are in no position to invade North Korea, because the North Koreans have the bombs already, they can deliver battlefield tactical with ease, the Americans cannot drive an invasion force into that kill zone, they would be decimated.
North Korea may be farther along when it comes to nukes than Iraq was, but that just makes them more of a target, not less of one. Having nukes while not being able to reliably retaliate, that's just putting a bullseye on your back. Banking on America to not fuck your shit up, when they can fuck your shit up and are looking for excuses to fuck your shit up, that's just dumb. A half baked plan if ever there was one, you yourself said there are plenty of hawks who would be down with taking out North Korea as it is, yet NK are banking that these folks won't push America to take them out?

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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:37 am

They're not "further" along, they are at the threshold of massive retaliation against the CONUS with dozens of hydrogen bombs, the Iraqis never even got to a single plutonium bomb, again, because the Isrealis take no chances when it comes to nuclear threats, the Isrealis have no compunction when it comes to counterforce, and they don't care what anybody else thinks about it, they do what they have to do, before it reaches the threshold of no return, not after.

If the Isrealis were running this, they would have taken action a long time ago.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:39 am

It should have happened in 98.

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Post by StCapps » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:40 am

Smitty-48 wrote:They're not "further" along, they are at the threshold of massive retaliation against the CONUS with dozens of hydrogen bombs, the Iraqis never even got to a single plutonium bomb, again, because the Isrealis take no chances when it comes to nuclear threats, the Isrealis have no compunction when it comes to counterforce, and they don't care what anybody else thinks about it, they do what they have to do, before it reaches the threshold of no return, not after.

If the Isrealis were running this, they would have taken action a long time ago.
The Israeli were unnecessarily paranoid and should have waited longer before taking out Iraq. North Korea is nowhere near the threshold you describe. You are being overly paranoid.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:42 am

The Israelis aren't having to deal with a nuclear Iraq right now, so..

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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:43 am

It's not paranoia, merely a rational calculation, millions of North Koreans and Americans die vs. millions of North Koreans die, and Americans learn to live with what they've done, in order to ensure that there is no mass attrition on the CONUS in a blinding flash of light.
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