THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:22 pm

You Know, Now That I Think About It, Settling Diplomatic Disputes Between Traditionally Hostile Ethnic Groups Is Nothing Like Drilling For Oil
When Donald Trump asked me to be his secretary of state, I was honored to be given such an extraordinary opportunity to serve my country. I was confident I could transition from my job as the CEO of ExxonMobil to become America’s chief diplomat. But after 10 months in my new role, I’m beginning to think that maybe settling complicated disputes between historically hostile groups of people is quite a bit different than drilling for oil.
The more I think about it, though, there is one similarity: If I really screw up a diplomatic dispute, we’re ultimately going to just walk away from it, same as we do with an oil spill.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:27 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Kath wrote: He's bought into the narrative that you are a loony leftie, and therefore, assumes you probably said that.

IIRC, there were not a lot of Obama supporters on DCF, especially after his first year.
Compared to some here, he is left-leaning. Others here are just fucking nuts.
Dude, we have actual Anarcho-capitalists, and Fascists on this board. Everyone here is "left compared to some" :lol:
I plant them into the "fucking nuts" group.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by DrYouth » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:40 pm

StCapps wrote: He made a joke out of Elizabeth Warren's heritage, not theirs, and just because he made a joke that wasn't honoring Native Americans doesn't mean he didn't honor them before and after the joke. Focusing on only the joke out of the entire ceremony, to "prove" that Trump wasn't honoring Native Americans, that is partisan hackery. Just because a tiny portion of the meeting was devoted to an Elizabeth Warren joke doesn't mean he's dishonoring the veterans, get a grip.
Na...

I'm going with DB on this one.
He's an asshat.
The joke was what an asshat does.

But he was an asshat that the American people elected because the alternative was worse.

I haven't lost my grip... and I don't see any reason to go blathering on about it for hours.

I feel bad for the veterans... but I laugh because it's also sort of funny...
Then I feel bad about laughing... because I am a neurotic psychiatrist... what do you want from me? :twisted:
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:36 pm

Go with DB all you want, my argument is better. Trump didn't fuck up here, it's all in your heads, the media focusing on this scores him points. Most of the clowns on this forum still think Trump should stop tweeting, it's hilarious how little they understand what is and isn't of political benefit to Donald Trump.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by DBTrek » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:40 pm

StCapps wrote:Go with DB all you want, my argument is better.
:lol:

If only blind faith were enough to alter reality...
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:45 pm

DBTrek wrote:
StCapps wrote:Go with DB all you want, my argument is better.
:lol:

If only blind faith were enough to alter reality...
There is no blind faith. Getting the media to focus on a joke he made and pretend that that is more important than what he did before and after the joke, that plays to Trump's advantage. How is it idiotic for Trump to pursue his own political self interest at the media's expense? It's not.

The veterans were sufficiently honored, the joke that plays to the base didn't ruin everything, that's just media spin. It was a throw away remark and yet Trump has people devoting attention to discussing it because the media can't help but turn it into a big story because they are that easily triggered by Trump jokes, especially when a Democrat is the target. Obvious bait is obvious, Trump gave the media the rope so they can hang themselves. If you don't want to see that because you just want to assume Trump is an idiot no matter what he does, well that's on you.

When Trump tricks the media into falling over themselves to undermine their own credibility, it's usually not an accident, he's been doing that for decades, very successfully I might add. He's trolling the media again, come on now, he knows that Pocahontas joke triggers them, and he knows his base eats up, it's good politics. Even if you personally don't like the joke, or think some Native Americans might take offense, it doesn't hurt him more than the media coverage of it hurts the media, and hurts Elizabeth Warren.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by DBTrek » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:02 pm

You used a lot of words to empyrically prove that your arguments are not better.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:07 pm

DBTrek wrote:You used a lot of words to empyrically prove that your arguments are not better.
That's the opposite of what I did. If Dr Youth doesn't buy it, whatever, that "Trump is an Idiot" filter can lead to a rather strong confirmation bias that prevents folks from seeing the forest from the trees.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by DBTrek » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:08 pm

Nah.
You’re wrong.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:09 pm

DBTrek wrote:Nah.
You’re wrong.
A compelling counter argument, if ever there was one.
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