How's that Obamacare Repeal Working Out For You?

[SuburbanFarmer]

Actually, there was at the beginning. Now there isn't, and I am sorry, but fuck anyone who thinks trying was ever off the table. If the child had any chance for a normal life, they should have been given it.

As I understand it, the state paid for years of treatments on him. The fact that one experimental snake oil was skipped at the end is no cause for outrage.

Again, we have no idea what we're doing with genetics yet.

They paid, then when the parents had a chance for something that had an opportunity to work, the state said: "Fuck you." because it wasn't them doing it.

That's one supposition, but we can't know why exactly the state decided not to allow it. Given the massive proceedings involved, is suppose they called in a number of experts in the field, and evaluated it as useless - as did the American physician when he finally looked at the kid.

Also, who's to say that they wouldn't have allowed it anyway, if the American said it was a go, given the uproar created?

[Zlaxer]

As I understand it, the state paid for years of treatments on him. The fact that one experimental snake oil was skipped at the end is no cause for outrage.

Again, we have no idea what we're doing with genetics yet.

They paid, then when the parents had a chance for something that had an opportunity to work, the state said: "Fuck you." because it wasn't them doing it.

That's one supposition, but we can't know why exactly the state decided not to allow it. Given the massive proceedings involved, is suppose they called in a number of experts in the field, and evaluated it as useless - as did the American physician when he finally looked at the kid.

Also, who's to say that they wouldn't have allowed it anyway, if the American said it was a go, given the uproar created?

I doubt you will get the nature of the harm from the Nanny Doctors - they're going to hide behind the fact they're "experts" so saying that there's a harm is "sufficient" to forceably deny the parents the right to try the treatment. Anything else most likely risks the state loosing face.....You shouldn't be surprised - this is what tyranny looks like.

[SuburbanFarmer]

They paid, then when the parents had a chance for something that had an opportunity to work, the state said: "Fuck you." because it wasn't them doing it.

That's one supposition, but we can't know why exactly the state decided not to allow it. Given the massive proceedings involved, is suppose they called in a number of experts in the field, and evaluated it as useless - as did the American physician when he finally looked at the kid.

Also, who's to say that they wouldn't have allowed it anyway, if the American said it was a go, given the uproar created?

I doubt you will get the nature of the harm from the Nanny Doctors - they're going to hide behind the fact they're "experts" so saying that there's a harm is "sufficient" to forceably deny the parents the right to try the treatment. Anything else most likely risks the state loosing face.....You shouldn't be surprised - this is what tyranny looks like.

I'll need some more cases or evidence to feel that Tyranny is afoot. It's a terminally I'll kid, with no hope of a life, who was cared for throughout his existence. There was a single, experimental treatment possible, which the doctor himself concluded won't do anything.

Net result is that the parents were prevented from handing over a pile of money for nothing.

[Zlaxer]

That's one supposition, but we can't know why exactly the state decided not to allow it. Given the massive proceedings involved, is suppose they called in a number of experts in the field, and evaluated it as useless - as did the American physician when he finally looked at the kid.

Also, who's to say that they wouldn't have allowed it anyway, if the American said it was a go, given the uproar created?

I doubt you will get the nature of the harm from the Nanny Doctors - they're going to hide behind the fact they're "experts" so saying that there's a harm is "sufficient" to forceably deny the parents the right to try the treatment. Anything else most likely risks the state loosing face.....You shouldn't be surprised - this is what tyranny looks like.

I'll need some more cases or evidence to feel that Tyranny is afoot. It's a terminally I'll kid, with no hope of a life, who was cared for throughout his existence. There was a single, experimental treatment possible, which the doctor himself concluded won't do anything.

Net result is that the parents were prevented from handing over a pile of money for nothing.

The government force-ably (means by threat of death) preventing a parent from seeking experimental treatment for their dying child isn't enough evidence of tyranny for you? Dam.

[The Conservative]

I doubt you will get the nature of the harm from the Nanny Doctors - they're going to hide behind the fact they're "experts" so saying that there's a harm is "sufficient" to forceably deny the parents the right to try the treatment. Anything else most likely risks the state loosing face.....You shouldn't be surprised - this is what tyranny looks like.

I'll need some more cases or evidence to feel that Tyranny is afoot. It's a terminally I'll kid, with no hope of a life, who was cared for throughout his existence. There was a single, experimental treatment possible, which the doctor himself concluded won't do anything.

Net result is that the parents were prevented from handing over a pile of money for nothing.

The government force-ably (means by the threat of death) preventing a parent from seeking experimental treatment for their dying child isn't enough evidence of tyranny for you? Dam.

Seems to me that people are willing to ignore things for something free... in their mind.

[Kazmyr]

I'll need some more cases or evidence to feel that Tyranny is afoot. It's a terminally I'll kid, with no hope of a life, who was cared for throughout his existence. There was a single, experimental treatment possible, which the doctor himself concluded won't do anything.

Net result is that the parents were prevented from handing over a pile of money for nothing.

So what if they want to hand over the pile of money? Why do you care what they do with the money that was given to them for the purposes of seeking this experimental treatment?

[SuburbanFarmer]

Out of the tens of thousands that die every day in the U.K., I have one case that looks questionable.

Perhaps for some, JUST ONE TIME is enough to change their entire view on medical care, but I'll be the weird one here and wait for more.

[The Conservative]

Out of the tens of thousands that die every day in the U.K., I have one case that looks questionable.

Perhaps for some, JUST ONE TIME is enough to change their entire view on medical care, but I'll be the weird one here and wait for more.

Right... pull my leg it does other tricks too.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ry-doctors

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... -red-cross

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ie-at-home

[Kazmyr]

Out of the tens of thousands that die every day in the U.K., I have one case that looks questionable.

Perhaps for some, JUST ONE TIME is enough to change their entire view on medical care, but I'll be the weird one here and wait for more.

Not like this case is going to set a legal precedent or anything.... oh wait.

[The Conservative]

Out of the tens of thousands that die every day in the U.K., I have one case that looks questionable.

Perhaps for some, JUST ONE TIME is enough to change their entire view on medical care, but I'll be the weird one here and wait for more.

Not like this case is going to set a legal precedent or anything.... oh wait.

It's not... it's already been happening for a long while.