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PartyOf5
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by PartyOf5 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:58 am
GrumpyCatFace wrote:It's as if the profit motive doesn't work with objective journalism. Or medicine.
So you want the government to run the media?
The real solution is for the public to stop giving these hacks their profits. I think that is happening, but it's happening way to slowly.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:01 am
PartyOf5 wrote:Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Don't need journalists at all, dishonest or otherwise, to determine (on my own) what is true. The problem is that digging through a lot of crap to find the things I want to be true feels an awful lot like digging through a lot of crap to find the truth.
So it's not unanswerable as you suggested before, it's just a lot of work.
Only if you believe yourself incapable of being wrong.
If you do the work, you can find some interesting articles on Obama's secret diplomatic missions to Mars (not even joking). Now, when I try to find more respected, credible reporting on this issue, I have a really hard time. This could mean either: didn't really happen, or; "credible" sources are trying to keep me blinkered and ignorant.
Unanswerable.
Epistemology is a
bitch!
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Martin Hash
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by Martin Hash » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:10 am
DBTrek wrote:Did Hash just say his only source of information is FOXNews?
I'm a YouTube & podcast addict for news. I start watching dozens of stories a day but only finish a few.
p.s. I've said before that I come to this forum for my news links.
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Martin Hash
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by Martin Hash » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:13 am
PartyOf5 wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:It's as if the profit motive doesn't work with objective journalism. Or medicine.
So you want the government to run the media?
The real solution is for the public to stop giving these hacks their profits. I think that is happening, but it's happening way to slowly.
Profits?! It's the lack of profits. People who want profits get out of the MSM, it's the folks who have an agenda who buy up those properties. WaPo, USA Today, CNN, Politico, Huffington Post; those are political mouthpieces, not profit centers. I've said before that The Right would be well-served if it bought a few of those money losers & promoted their shill agenda the same way.
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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:20 am
PartyOf5 wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:It's as if the profit motive doesn't work with objective journalism. Or medicine.
So you want the government to run the media?
The real solution is for the public to stop giving these hacks their profits. I think that is happening, but it's happening way to slowly.
No, I want the government to reinstate the non-profit news hour on each network. No commercials, just news.
But we can't expect that to last. End-stage capitalism is like systemic cancer. There's no relief anywhere.
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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:20 am
Martin Hash wrote:PartyOf5 wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:It's as if the profit motive doesn't work with objective journalism. Or medicine.
So you want the government to run the media?
The real solution is for the public to stop giving these hacks their profits. I think that is happening, but it's happening way to slowly.
Profits?! It's the lack of profits. People who want profits get out of the MSM, it's the folks who have an agenda who buy up those properties. WaPo, USA Today, CNN, Politico, Huffington Post; those are political mouthpieces, not profit centers. I've said before that The Right would be well-served if it bought a few of those money losers & promoted their shill agenda the same way.
So..... Fox News.
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by Martin Hash » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:29 am
FOX showed how successful they were controlling the agenda, and The Left took the concept to town.
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clubgop
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by clubgop » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:13 am
AverageJoe wrote:clubgop wrote:AverageJoe wrote:
Yup, if this had been a GOP or Trump aide this would be frontpage, 24/7 coverage of every aspect of this. But it's DNC, so little to no MSM coverage.
And news organizations are still scratching their heads on why the public has next to zero trust in them anymore.
My man, average joe has been red pilled.
Clubby, when haven't I said this? Make no mistake, if this was the GOP, I would be here saying the exact same thing. I have no trust of either party or the news. I have even gone so far as to deregister as a 20+ year Independent to No Party Affiliation. I'm sick of all their shit but most folks don't give a crap unless it's "the other side doing it".
If the GOP was doing this they wouldn't exist anymore. This media would happily stick the dagger in.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:20 am
Martin Hash wrote:PartyOf5 wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:It's as if the profit motive doesn't work with objective journalism. Or medicine.
So you want the government to run the media?
The real solution is for the public to stop giving these hacks their profits. I think that is happening, but it's happening way to slowly.
Profits?! It's the lack of profits. People who want profits get out of the MSM, it's the folks who have an agenda who buy up those properties. WaPo, USA Today, CNN, Politico, Huffington Post; those are political mouthpieces, not profit centers. I've said before that The Right would be well-served if it bought a few of those money losers & promoted their shill agenda the same way.
Hey, speak of the Devil!
Emerson Collective Acquires Majority Stake in The Atlantic
If you didn't like the Atlantic before, you're gonna fucking
hate it for real now!
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clubgop
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by clubgop » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:22 am
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Martin Hash wrote:PartyOf5 wrote:
So you want the government to run the media?
The real solution is for the public to stop giving these hacks their profits. I think that is happening, but it's happening way to slowly.
Profits?! It's the lack of profits. People who want profits get out of the MSM, it's the folks who have an agenda who buy up those properties. WaPo, USA Today, CNN, Politico, Huffington Post; those are political mouthpieces, not profit centers. I've said before that The Right would be well-served if it bought a few of those money losers & promoted their shill agenda the same way.
So..... Fox News.
Yes. True balance. Not stale goverment subsidised propaganda. Lack of personality or profit doesnt mean lack of bias. Stop selling us on the virtues of North Korean state television.