PARCEL #102 LONDON TUBING EDITION

[heydaralon]

I think Thatcher was cool. UK was floundering, and she came in and fixed a bunch of shit. I know a lot of people my age hate her, but she made a positive mark on her country imo.

[TheReal_ND]

I don't understand it one way or the other. It seems like the the Thatcher haters are washed up punk rockers and everyone else is like "literally who?" Or "oh a Nazi"

[Smitty-48]

Quite sure the Baroness Thatcher would scoff at the idea that she was ever "cool", she was either "stone cold" or in "hot pursuit", but never "cool". Nor "warm" neither for that matter.

[TheReal_ND]

Wait she was blue blood?

[heydaralon]

Well, Idk much about Britain, but after WW2 they started having the state become massively involved in sectors of the economy like coal, steel, telecoms etc. Basically, this British guy named William Beveridge wrote this book called Social Insurance in the 40's. It was massively influential. Hitler had a copy in his bunker for instance. The book basically laid down the idea for the modern welfare state in Britain with a .lot of state intervention, progressive policies etc, and after the war that was how they decided to run things until Thatcher came around. She was part of a wave that opened different sectors of the economy to more competitive market forces. A lot of people love that, and a lot hate it. I'm not really an expert on the lady, but thats my very shitty abridged version of it.

[TheReal_ND]

Hitler probably wasn't looking to import the population expansion needed to pull off a cohesive socialist project like that though.

[Smitty-48]

Thatcher only came around because they were running things that way and it had by 1979 simply run things into the ground. Much which the Left blames Thatcher for doing, they would have had no choice but to do themselves at some point, Thatcher simply got the mandate to do it from the public, because the Left was so beholden to the welfare state they simply would not do anyting to restrain it, even as it became dead weight dragging the country down into a crisis of decay and disorder, which quite frankly, the electorate by and large had simply become sick off; enter Thatcher, former fringe candidate, suddenly in the breach.

The Left are the ones who made her, simply by unmaking themselves in a default.

[heydaralon]

Hitler probably wasn't looking to import the population expansion needed to pull off a cohesive socialist project like that though.

Hitler read a lot of stuff. I'm not sure if it influenced his actual policies, just that the book made a huge impact on people at the time. All the world leaders, and academic policymakers read it and thought it was the way of future. I think also the fact that many countries already had experienced heavy government intervention from the war made them open to trying out a lot of Beveridge's ideas. I believe the National Health Service was inspired by the Beveridge Report.

[TheReal_ND]

Yeah idk. I know he was a friend of nationalist Islam just like we were with the Bath party before the Jewish break in 1996 but I doubt at any time he conceived of having a nation of porous borders. His brand of socialism would have encouraged native birth rates the same as Russia does now. It wouldn't have invlolved importing the third world the way these European socialists do now (as well as us.)

[heydaralon]

One thing that I think is cool about Thatcher is that she had a background in chemistry. She wasn't just some out of touch ivory tower academic. She had experience with practical real world stuff.