Vault 7 - Happening

[C-Mag]

Isn't CIA legally prohibited from performing domestic espionage. Their mission is foreign only.

The National Resources Division (NR) is the domestic division of the United States Central Intelligence Agency. Its main function is to conduct voluntary debriefings of U.S. citizens who travel overseas for work or to visit relatives, and to recruit foreign students, diplomats and businesspeople to become CIA assets when they return to their countries.

Since when does little things like laws get in the way of the CIA or NSA for that matter?

Yes on both.

This is where the heads of these agencies and the oversight committees are going to have a lot of questions to answer. Sounds like WikiLeaks is going to force the US to pay attention to this. The Free Press in the new media (as opposed to the MSM) is going to have to push this issue.

I think we are going to be very shocked if we get to learn the internal spying organization that has been built with a marriage of government and technology during the Bush-Clinton Dynasty from 1988 to 2016. Nearly 30 years of these two families with no regard to the Civil Rights of Americans.

[SilverEagle]

Isn't CIA legally prohibited from performing domestic espionage. Their mission is foreign only.

The National Resources Division (NR) is the domestic division of the United States Central Intelligence Agency. Its main function is to conduct voluntary debriefings of U.S. citizens who travel overseas for work or to visit relatives, and to recruit foreign students, diplomats and businesspeople to become CIA assets when they return to their countries.

Since when does little things like laws get in the way of the CIA or NSA for that matter?

Yes on both.

This is where the heads of these agencies and the oversight committees are going to have a lot of questions to answer. Sounds like WikiLeaks is going to force the US to pay attention to this. The Free Press in the new media (as opposed to the MSM) is going to have to push this issue.

I think we are going to be very shocked if we get to learn the internal spying organization that has been built with a marriage of government and technology during the Bush-Clinton Dynasty from 1988 to 2016. Nearly 30 years of these two families with no regard to the Civil Rights of Americans.

I don't think that we'll be shocked at all. With all the leaks that have been happening over the last 6-7 years I feel like it was a sure thing and at some point it would all come out.....and it is.

[jbird4049]

Since when does little things like laws get in the way of the CIA or NSA for that matter?

Yes on both.

This is where the heads of these agencies and the oversight committees are going to have a lot of questions to answer. Sounds like WikiLeaks is going to force the US to pay attention to this. The Free Press in the new media (as opposed to the MSM) is going to have to push this issue.

I think we are going to be very shocked if we get to learn the internal spying organization that has been built with a marriage of government and technology during the Bush-Clinton Dynasty from 1988 to 2016. Nearly 30 years of these two families with no regard to the Civil Rights of Americans.

I don't think that we'll be shocked at all. With all the leaks that have been happening over the last 6-7 years I feel like it was a sure thing and at some point it would all come out.....and it is.

The systemic corruption is going to prevent any reform.

In the acquisition of wealth, power, influence, fame, or whatever they desire, the elites of areas like the government, politics, business, intelligence, the law, education have subverted even the expectation of the rule of law, of following their actual responsibilities.

I also suspect there are now people inside the intelligence agencies who are actively preventing oversight, let alone reform, by using the power they now have to blackmail, frame, or maybe even kill.

I am not be deliberately hyperbolic. I am trying to be reasonable, but whenever I think I have some understanding of what is going on, I find out I am being naive.

[C-Mag]

The systemic corruption is going to prevent any reform.

In the acquisition of wealth, power, influence, fame, or whatever they desire, the elites of areas like the government, politics, business, intelligence, the law, education have subverted even the expectation of the rule of law, of following their actual responsibilities.

I also suspect there are now people inside the intelligence agencies who are actively preventing oversight, let alone reform, by using the power they now have to blackmail, frame, or maybe even kill.

I am not be deliberately hyperbolic. I am trying to be reasonable, but whenever I think I have some understanding of what is going on, I find out I am being naive.

Agreed.

Jason Chaffetz who is on the Oversight Committee said he was spied on and he can't get answers. On the Damn Oversight Committee and he can't get answers. Our Intelligence apparatus is totally out of control.

[SilverEagle]

Yes on both.

This is where the heads of these agencies and the oversight committees are going to have a lot of questions to answer. Sounds like WikiLeaks is going to force the US to pay attention to this. The Free Press in the new media (as opposed to the MSM) is going to have to push this issue.

I think we are going to be very shocked if we get to learn the internal spying organization that has been built with a marriage of government and technology during the Bush-Clinton Dynasty from 1988 to 2016. Nearly 30 years of these two families with no regard to the Civil Rights of Americans.

I don't think that we'll be shocked at all. With all the leaks that have been happening over the last 6-7 years I feel like it was a sure thing and at some point it would all come out.....and it is.

The systemic corruption is going to prevent any reform.

In the acquisition of wealth, power, influence, fame, or whatever they desire, the elites of areas like the government, politics, business, intelligence, the law, education have subverted even the expectation of the rule of law, of following their actual responsibilities.

I also suspect there are now people inside the intelligence agencies who are actively preventing oversight, let alone reform, by using the power they now have to blackmail, frame, or maybe even kill.

I am not be deliberately hyperbolic. I am trying to be reasonable, but whenever I think I have some understanding of what is going on, I find out I am being naive.

Just live day to day thinking that the government knows you better than you know you. They most likely know most of everything you've done since 2007, maybe even before that.

[apeman]

The systemic corruption is going to prevent any reform.

In the acquisition of wealth, power, influence, fame, or whatever they desire, the elites of areas like the government, politics, business, intelligence, the law, education have subverted even the expectation of the rule of law, of following their actual responsibilities.

I also suspect there are now people inside the intelligence agencies who are actively preventing oversight, let alone reform, by using the power they now have to blackmail, frame, or maybe even kill.

I am not be deliberately hyperbolic. I am trying to be reasonable, but whenever I think I have some understanding of what is going on, I find out I am being naive.

It's true.

This is it. Have no pretenses anymore, the Constitution is increasingly irrelevant, our ELECTED leaders cannot restrain the state, and we are done solving problems.

IF you remove $$$ from the equation (the "corruption" part of your comment), I still don't see the power being relinquished.

The problem is our system. Elaborating more than that is super uncomfortable.

[Lemonade]

Have you guys read the list of compromised applications? Completely unreal. To have this stuff confirmed is a bit paradigm changing. We (I) had suspected these things or just assumed, "they are listening" but damn to see it laid out like this, generates many different feels.

Kapersky
Sandisk
VLC
Irfanviewer
Notepad ++
the friggin' video game 2048

Quick edit, I am supposed to take my dad shopping this weekend for a new 37' Samsung TV. WTF? I don't want him putting a CIA telescreen in his study. No matter how benign.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Have you guys read the list of compromised applications? Completely unreal. To have this stuff confirmed is a bit paradigm changing. We (I) had suspected these things or just assumed, "they are listening" but damn to see it laid out like this, generates many different feels.

Kapersky
Sandisk
VLC
Irfanviewer
Notepad ++
the friggin' video game 2048

Quick edit, I am supposed to take my dad shopping this weekend for a new 37' Samsung TV. WTF? I don't want him putting a CIA telescreen in his study. No matter how benign.

I'd recommend not buying a "Smart TV" at all.

I'm still kind of baffled at how nobody saw this coming - I just kind of assumed that we were all aware of the constant Big Brother eye on us by now. Either way, I'm glad to see people waking up to it, and I hope this same conversation is happening across America today.

[apeman]

Quick edit, I am supposed to take my dad shopping this weekend for a new 37' Samsung TV. WTF? I don't want him putting a CIA telescreen in his study. No matter how benign.

The first floor in my house -- an open living room/kitchen arrangement -- sports a Samsung Smarthub TV, and old xbox, a tablet, an iMac, and often two iphones.

So, yeah, the possibility exists that there is a lot of footage of me masterbating.

[SilverEagle]

I'm just going to text and email myself my own dick picks everyday until I die just to fuck with them.