Income Inequality

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:11 am

apeman wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:. Income inequality is neither good nor bad. You can have huge income inequalities and the American people still be better off. It's possible that the best practical policies, that would lead to the most prosperity of the American people, would entail huge income inequalities.
Not a hard sell to me.
What they certainly don't want you to look as is the destruction of our people through destructive trade and immigration policies.
I think at least part of the reason for this is the economic system we live under and the promises made require population growth i.e. we don't wanna become Japan.
But by recasting issues as matters of taxation or "income inequality", they can keep people from noticing that the causes come down to the demographic annihilation of the American people. Why are wages stagnant? Because we keep importing more people even as productivity decreases the numbers of jobs. Why are real earnings in decline? Because we keep offshoring high-paying jobs to the developing world and importing professionals on H1B visas (slaves) to glut the labor market.

All of this shit happens when politicians do not put the American people first.
Once you have the tech to globalize like we have, I wonder if the genie can ever truly be put back in the bottle. I have no doubt that we are witnessing a global rejection of globalization (even our negative reactions to globalization are global lol), the pendulum swings too far this way and then too far the other, but I really have trouble imagining a future world where globalization has been defeated.

A century from now, the Japanese people will still exist. They might have a smaller population, yet because they didn't destroy themselves with suicidal immigration policies, they will remain. That's not necessarily true for all of western civilization.

Japan is a shit ton better off than we are right now.

Thus globalism can only ever destroy our civilization. I don't know if you've noticed this, but nobody else is buying that hoo hoo. They will take the factories and jobs. They will even send off their immigrants to colonize Europe and North America. But they sure as shit aren't opening their borders to be demographically destroyed.

If we don't kill globalism to save ourselves, globalism dies with us.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by PartyOf5 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:44 am

apeman wrote: Found an image to accompany this point:

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Thanks Obama ;)

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by apeman » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:48 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
apeman wrote: Found an image to accompany this point:

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Thanks Obama ;)
For all we know, this is what happens when interests rates are unnaturally kept at zero -- old corporation will never die with access to cheap funding, and new corps struggle to be born against the well funded incumbents. I mean, what is IBM, besides a zombie flush with access to capital to regurgitate in quarterly secretions?

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by PartyOf5 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:48 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:When you come to realize that the goal of the establishment of both parties is to annihilate the American people, and the middle class along with it, you will come to see that these other issues are totally fabricated distractions. Income inequality is neither good nor bad. You can have huge income inequalities and the American people still be better off. It's possible that the best practical policies, that would lead to the most prosperity of the American people, would entail huge income inequalities.

What they certainly don't want you to look as is the destruction of our people through destructive trade and immigration policies. The policies pushed by the establishment have been truly treasonous.

But by recasting issues as matters of taxation or "income inequality", they can keep people from noticing that the causes come down to the demographic annihilation of the American people. Why are wages stagnant? Because we keep importing more people even as productivity decreases the numbers of jobs. Why are real earnings in decline? Because we keep offshoring high-paying jobs to the developing world and importing professionals on H1B visas (slaves) to glut the labor market.

All of this shit happens when politicians do not put the American people first.
Do you believe any of this will change with Trump as POTUS? I ask because a lot of what yous said sounds like things Trump has said.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:49 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:When you come to realize that the goal of the establishment of both parties is to annihilate the American people, and the middle class along with it, you will come to see that these other issues are totally fabricated distractions. Income inequality is neither good nor bad. You can have huge income inequalities and the American people still be better off. It's possible that the best practical policies, that would lead to the most prosperity of the American people, would entail huge income inequalities.

What they certainly don't want you to look as is the destruction of our people through destructive trade and immigration policies. The policies pushed by the establishment have been truly treasonous.

But by recasting issues as matters of taxation or "income inequality", they can keep people from noticing that the causes come down to the demographic annihilation of the American people. Why are wages stagnant? Because we keep importing more people even as productivity decreases the numbers of jobs. Why are real earnings in decline? Because we keep offshoring high-paying jobs to the developing world and importing professionals on H1B visas (slaves) to glut the labor market.

All of this shit happens when politicians do not put the American people first.
Do you believe any of this will change with Trump as POTUS? I ask because a lot of what yous said sounds like things Trump has said.

Not really. I think he will slow it down, but he has shown no real commitment to fixing the actual problem with immigration.

North America is headed straight for balkanization.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:14 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
PartyOf5 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:When you come to realize that the goal of the establishment of both parties is to annihilate the American people, and the middle class along with it, you will come to see that these other issues are totally fabricated distractions. Income inequality is neither good nor bad. You can have huge income inequalities and the American people still be better off. It's possible that the best practical policies, that would lead to the most prosperity of the American people, would entail huge income inequalities.

What they certainly don't want you to look as is the destruction of our people through destructive trade and immigration policies. The policies pushed by the establishment have been truly treasonous.

But by recasting issues as matters of taxation or "income inequality", they can keep people from noticing that the causes come down to the demographic annihilation of the American people. Why are wages stagnant? Because we keep importing more people even as productivity decreases the numbers of jobs. Why are real earnings in decline? Because we keep offshoring high-paying jobs to the developing world and importing professionals on H1B visas (slaves) to glut the labor market.

All of this shit happens when politicians do not put the American people first.
Do you believe any of this will change with Trump as POTUS? I ask because a lot of what yous said sounds like things Trump has said.

Not really. I think he will slow it down, but he has shown no real commitment to fixing the actual problem with immigration.

North America is headed straight for balkanization.

I can't wait- then ill know where to move in order to best avoid the collectivist thugs....

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:19 am

Zlaxer wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
PartyOf5 wrote: Do you believe any of this will change with Trump as POTUS? I ask because a lot of what yous said sounds like things Trump has said.

Not really. I think he will slow it down, but he has shown no real commitment to fixing the actual problem with immigration.

North America is headed straight for balkanization.

I can't wait- then ill know where to move in order to best avoid the collectivist thugs....

That's the most disturbing aspect of this globalist/marxist coalition that took power in the west. The best possible outcome that I can see at this point is balkanization and all that entails. They have fucked us up in a big way. If more people truly understood how badly they fucked up our nations and people, there might not be many empty lampposts on the streets.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:30 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Zlaxer wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

Not really. I think he will slow it down, but he has shown no real commitment to fixing the actual problem with immigration.

North America is headed straight for balkanization.

I can't wait- then ill know where to move in order to best avoid the collectivist thugs....

That's the most disturbing aspect of this globalist/marxist coalition that took power in the west. The best possible outcome that I can see at this point is balkanization and all that entails. They have fucked us up in a big way. If more people truly understood how badly they fucked up our nations and people, there might not be many empty lampposts on the streets.
None of this has the slightest thing to do with Income Inequality.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:31 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Zlaxer wrote:

I can't wait- then ill know where to move in order to best avoid the collectivist thugs....

That's the most disturbing aspect of this globalist/marxist coalition that took power in the west. The best possible outcome that I can see at this point is balkanization and all that entails. They have fucked us up in a big way. If more people truly understood how badly they fucked up our nations and people, there might not be many empty lampposts on the streets.
None of this has the slightest thing to do with Income Inequality.

Has everything to do with it.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:33 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

That's the most disturbing aspect of this globalist/marxist coalition that took power in the west. The best possible outcome that I can see at this point is balkanization and all that entails. They have fucked us up in a big way. If more people truly understood how badly they fucked up our nations and people, there might not be many empty lampposts on the streets.
None of this has the slightest thing to do with Income Inequality.

Has everything to do with it.
Your enlightened racial theories do not explain why CEOs suddenly make way more than the average worker, why productivity has fallen sharply, or why nobody can make an actual "career" with a single employer anymore.

But do go on, and explain how the bad brown people took your fruit-picking job.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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