BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by Montegriffo » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:35 am

TheReal_ND wrote:
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Martin Hash wrote: WTF is all this rubbish? Dude, just shut up about guns, it's embarrassing. Fuck Europe.
Wow, with debating skills like that it's hard to believe you never got elected.
There is no debate. What do you think "shall not be infringed" means?
Heaven forbid your right to carry a gun into an airport to open fire on fellow citizens should be infringed.
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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by Ex-California » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:48 am

Montegriffo wrote:
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Montegriffo wrote:
Wow, with debating skills like that it's hard to believe you never got elected.
There is no debate. What do you think "shall not be infringed" means?
Heaven forbid your right to carry a gun into an airport to open fire on fellow citizens should be infringed.
People have to travel with guns.

Ever heard of a hunting trip?
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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by de officiis » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:52 am

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Montegriffo wrote:
Wow, with debating skills like that it's hard to believe you never got elected.
There is no debate. What do you think "shall not be infringed" means?
Round and round we go again.

Your guns rights are already extremely "infringed". Unless you can show me where to purchase a missile launcher?
"Shall not be infringed" means that unreasonable restrictions are forbidden. So the debate is ultimately about what "reasonable" means.
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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by Martin Hash » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:57 am

Monte, who usually responds rationally, though Leftist, on many issues, has the Left's bizarre fixation on guns. Many gun-grabbers in America take that position for the perverse glee they get from triggering White males, others cynically want the State to have a monopoly on violence so that the weak can be the neobullies, others are simply fearful, none respect liberty. They are literally saying that they don't care what you think or want, they'll tell you what you need.
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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by Montegriffo » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:05 am

California wrote: People have to travel with guns.

Ever heard of a hunting trip?
Plenty of reasonable ways around that, not allowing ammo to be carried on a plane for example. Also I'm no expert but who hunts with a hand gun?
This whole "not prepared to discuss it" attitude is why in the last 11 years you have had 400 mass killings which is on average once every 12 days.
Like Dan said, everyone is tired of this debate until it's their child who gets shot.
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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:13 am

de officiis wrote:
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TheReal_ND wrote: There is no debate. What do you think "shall not be infringed" means?
Round and round we go again.

Your guns rights are already extremely "infringed". Unless you can show me where to purchase a missile launcher?
"Shall not be infringed" means that unreasonable restrictions are forbidden. So the debate is ultimately about what "reasonable" means.
Not unless I have failed to understand some very basic English. Since we're constantly boiling the 2nd Amendment down to 4 words, it seems pretty clear to me.
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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by Fife » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:29 am

"We" includes more than you and your friends at Lake Tardicaca, Nathan.

It is a sad waste that you have free access to someone like de o, and and it only makes you more of an ignorant prick.

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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by Martin Hash » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:31 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
de officiis wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Round and round we go again.

Your guns rights are already extremely "infringed". Unless you can show me where to purchase a missile launcher?
"Shall not be infringed" means that unreasonable restrictions are forbidden. So the debate is ultimately about what "reasonable" means.
Not unless I have failed to understand some very basic English. Since we're constantly boiling the 2nd Amendment down to 4 words, it seems pretty clear to me.
R U an attorney too?

This has gone to the Supreme Court multiple times. Do you think it's going to change? You're like an anti-abortion bot.
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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by Montegriffo » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:44 am

Martin Hash wrote:Monte, who usually responds rationally, though Leftist, on many issues, has the Left's bizarre fixation on guns. Many gun-grabbers in America take that position for the perverse glee they get from triggering White males, others cynically want the State to have a monopoly on violence so that the weak can be the neobullies, others are simply fearful, none respect liberty. They are literally saying that they don't care what you think or want, they'll tell you what you need.
Responding rationally should exclude expressions like gun grabbers, neobullies and calling people ignorant pricks.
Within a few pages I will be called a supporter of rapists and muggers and eventually a child molester. I've been here before and know the way these discussions go so please don't try lecturing me on rational debate Martin.
As for liberty which is your go to debate killer, nobody ever wants to discuss the liberty of children to go to school or the mall without the fear of being shot by someone with a mental illness or the freedom to travel without some loner gunning them down at an airport. Liberty has to be applied to all not just the minority who feel it is their right to arm themselves and carry their guns into public places.
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Re: BLM Blamed for Spike in Deaths of Chicago's Blacks

Post by MilSpecs » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:46 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:For real, dude, I wonder if we could get an ordinance around here so all my extreme country neighbors can shoot their guns in their yards not during the evening hours. It sounds like Fallujah sometimes.
I would like one of those ordinances. All friggin night long. One of these days I'm going to pile the family in the car, park in front of one of those houses and blast No Sleep Till Brooklyn while we argue at the top of our lungs. If they want to make the neighborhood sound ghetto, bring it on.
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