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[KerningChameleon]

Japan had a God Emperor.

They ate two atom bombs waiting for the guy to say "Ok, that's enough".
He cried uncle and Japan surrendered.

I imagine that's a closer corollary to NK than a people's revolution man like Mao.
Kim Il Sung might've been Mao, but Kim Jong Un is emperor.

Was Mao Zedong really better than Kim Jong Un? How so? Near as I can tell, I'd rather have Kim Jing Un, the North Korean economy is doing far better under his rule than China's under Mao Zedong, and he's got a long way to go before he's liquidated as many plebs and Emperor Mao, Chairman Mao killed 45 million of his own people in just four years, 1958 to 1962, worked, starved, or beaten to death, Kim Jong Un is a George frikkin' Washington compared to Mao Zedong.

You think the Norks prefer prefer Kim Il Sung to Kim Jong Un? I don't think so, I betcha they'd take Un over Sung any day of the week, just on quality of life, which, for the ruling elite in North Korea, has never been better, but it's not like the peasants were better off in the 60's and 70's than they are now neither. In North Korean terms, they are in a co,paritive boom time and freerer than they've ever been as well. Is it New Hampshire? Nope, but it's better than the Great Leap Forward under Chairman Mao, bet dat.

Yup yup, don't believe the propaganda folks, the North Korean state, at all levels of class and government, is getting more stable as the years pass, not less. Controlled opening of the markets and China's assistance in that space has done wonders to keep the citizenry content with the status quo. The best chance for regime change/collapse was during the famine in the 90s. The US government made a bet then on strategic patience, lost, and now must deal with the consequences of being wrong and learn to live with a nuclear-backed dictator-run NK for the foreseeable future.

[Fife]

Was Mao Zedong really better than Kim Jong Un? How so? Near as I can tell, I'd rather have Kim Jing Un, the North Korean economy is doing far better under his rule than China's under Mao Zedong, and he's got a long way to go before he's liquidated as many plebs and Emperor Mao, Chairman Mao killed 45 million of his own people in just four years, 1958 to 1962, worked, starved, or beaten to death, Kim Jong Un is a George frikkin' Washington compared to Mao Zedong.

What would George Patton, Jr., have said about the Zedong question?

America would indict George S. Patton for being a "Neo Nazi" naow, so what he says about anything, is officially moot, in the Union of Cultural Marxist Amerika.

No shit, Sherlock.

Patton prolly couldn't even get a commission nowadays.

Duh.



I asked, "What would George Patton, Jr., have said about the Zedong question?" Then, not now.

[Smitty-48]

What would George Patton, Jr., have said about the Zedong question?

America would indict George S. Patton for being a "Neo Nazi" naow, so what he says about anything, is officially moot, in the Union of Cultural Marxist Amerika.

No shit, Sherlock.

Patton prolly couldn't even get a commission nowadays.

Duh.



I asked, "What would George Patton, Jr., have said about the Zedong question?" Then, not now.

Commission? Dude, he'd be in jail for "racial profiling", or the looney bin for "thought crime", unless ol' Trump pardoned him that is. :go team:

As to what Patton would say about Mao? He'd probably say he was a filthy Communist, but a clever one none the less, Patton would have liked the cut of his jib, "Magnificent Bastard", as he was recommending a nuclear strike against him.

[Fife]

Fuck dude, when did the switch get flicked?

It does seem to be a binary situation, especially given your last post.

Seriously, when did the gun get leveled at my head?

I'm starting to get sort of pissed, here.

[Smitty-48]

Fuck dude, when did the switch get flicked?

It does seem to be a binary situation, especially given your last post.

Seriously, when did the gun get leveled at my head?

I'm starting to get sort of pissed, here.

Actually, I think America has been here before, a few times really, it kind of goes on a cycle, these eras of moral panic in America, they come and go.

[Smitty-48]

Yup yup, don't believe the propaganda folks, the North Korean state, at all levels of class and government, is getting more stable as the years pass, not less. Controlled opening of the markets and China's assistance in that space has done wonders to keep the citizenry content with the status quo. The best chance for regime change/collapse was during the famine in the 90s. The US government made a bet then on strategic patience, lost, and now must deal with the consequences of being wrong and learn to live with a nuclear-backed dictator-run NK for the foreseeable future.

Not that I am in anyway implying that it is America's responsibility to do so, but if it was up to me, I'd kill it with fire, I'd put the B61's down on it, tommorow, with full knowledge of the women and children I'd be burning into ashes, not because I want to kill them, but simply to spare future generations to come from being born into the nightmare of it, soon to be propped up with a launch on warning nuclear deterent, because I don't think it's going to spontaneously implode anytime soon, and I mean decades.

Problem being, not sure it would work, might simply result in burn the village to save the village, might have to burn it all, right down to the wood, but even then, I'd still probably do it, mercy kill.

Things may have relatively improved in the DPRK, but relative is the operating world, it's still a kafka-esque Stalinist abomination, straight out of Orwell's 1984, and they're locked in, they're not poised to overthrow this regime, it's all encompassing, like being inside a perfectly smooth sphere, with nowhere to grab onto in order to break it. It's a routine to them now, they just go through the motions, the idea that they could break out, doesn't even occur to them.

[Smitty-48]

And before you parents start blubbering for the children, just consider what they do; they take your children away and keep them in the totalitarian education camps they call "schools", this abomination takes your children and raises them to perpetuate itself, while you live in the barracks at the factory, concentration camp in effect. So if you ask me, not only wouldn't I want to bring more children into that world, but If I was in their place, I'd take my chances with the B61's and then try to make a break for it in the aftermath.

Once this monstrosity has the two stage hydrogen bombs solid fuel boosted intercontinental hair trigger alert, the window of oppoutinity for counterforce, becomes extremis to say the least, take it down now, before it can ever get there.

[SuburbanFarmer]

So you're pro-choice then.

[Speaker to Animals]

I think we should just abandon the entire peninsula and dump the problem on to China's lap.

East Asians are plenty smart enough to figure out how to solve their own problems.

[Smitty-48]

So you're pro-choice then.

'Course, I'd put the B61's down on the North Korean snowflake babies too.