2020 election

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Mon May 06, 2019 9:47 am

Cognitive Dissonance is a helluva drug.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon May 06, 2019 9:48 am

Sure is. You should back off on it.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Mon May 06, 2019 9:49 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 9:48 am
Sure is. You should back off on it.
Says the guy whose only responses are " :lol: " and "I know you are, but what am I?"
/shrugs

No cognitive dissonance there.....
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon May 06, 2019 9:51 am

At this point, you have repeated yourself a million times with nothing interesting or new to add to it. The only thing left to do is to see how this pans out. Instead of destroying our forum for good with your buffoonery, maybe talk about something else, preferably some interesting idea instead of this NPC garbage.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Mon May 06, 2019 9:54 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 9:51 am
At this point, you have repeated yourself a million times with nothing interesting or new to add to it. The only thing left to do is to see how this pans out. Instead of destroying our forum for good with your buffoonery, maybe talk about something else, preferably some interesting idea instead of this NPC garbage.
Well when you turn out to be wrong, you'll just invent a reason to pretend you're still right. If Biden loses, you'll act like I never saw his downfall via gaffe coming, and the reason he lost is a revolt against the establishment, instead of Joe Biden being a putz. There is no reasoning with you, it's true.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon May 06, 2019 9:55 am

If I am wrong, I will just admit to it. The problem is that you will never do that, just like you failed to do so in 2016. But, again.. maybe talk about something else, or try to add something new instead of constantly make petty attacks on other members. If you don't have any new ideas, then maybe go masturbate for real instead of jizz up our forum every day.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Mon May 06, 2019 9:57 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 9:55 am
If I am wrong, I will just admit to it. The problem is that you will never do that, just like you failed to do so in 2016. But, again.. maybe talk about something else, or try to add something new instead of constantly make petty attacks on other members. If you don't have any new ideas, then maybe go masturbate for real instead of jizz up our forum every day.
I gave you credit for calling Trump in 2016, long before most. You're just mad that I don't agree with the reasons you think it happened and are lashing out that there is alternative way to view the election of Trump, other than "outsiders are ascendant, the establishment is fucked, re-alignment!"
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Re: 2020 election

Post by nmoore63 » Mon May 06, 2019 12:34 pm

Admitting that I was wrong that Trump won....

I still think Hillary would have won if it had been a real contest.

Americans hate forgone conclusions.

She lost in part because it was so rigged she'd couldn't lose.

If she had fairly fought for Wisconsin, I think she would have won it, for example.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon May 06, 2019 12:43 pm

The principle reason Hillary lost the general election is that she had no ideas. There was nothing there.

Trump's big idea was to build a wall, reform immigration, and reverse globalism to stop the devastation of American lives. He fucking failed at that, and it might cost him, but that was the big idea we all debated.

Hillary had no idea. She was just running on having a vagina. Good luck with that. It won't work in 2020 either.

You need ideas now. The Internet is totally interconnected and public discourse is no longer by nature a phenomenon of a limited number of broadcasters broadcasting their tightly-controlled narrative to the masses. Everybody contributes. It's a giant discussion. People resent corporate tools trying to make themselves gatekeepers to the "narrative" now.

What's to discuss about any of these establishment candidates? Their sexual organs? Their race? That's not even real identity politics. Identity politics just requires you to acknowledge racial and ethnic interests in politics. Yang really could capture the white vote if he just speaks more on the economic decline of white America. It isn't about who he is, but that he could address the problems people actually face, both individually *and* collectively as racial groups.

Meanwhile, he does have a big idea that everybody has been discussing.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Mon May 06, 2019 12:48 pm

Hillary lost because Trump has a better brand than she did. Ideas played a role in that, not when it comes to policy, but when it comes to marketing. He sold more palatable lies than she did, and told more popular truths than she did. The best used car salesman won, as is always the case in politics.

Big vague ideas that can be summed up in a bumper sticker and evoke visual imagery sells, fine policy details wonkery does not.

Trump sold what sells, Hillary did not. MAGA Build That Wall > Experienced Lecturing Cunt
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