THE ERA OF TRUMP

[C-Mag]

Consider also with respect to those blue towers.. there exists large republican minorities in those districts who don't vote (or might vote third party if they vote at all). If you went to a popular vote, the floodgates would open.

I can't believe democrats are still harping on the popular vote thing. The electoral college is the only thing that is keeping them at least hypothetically relevant in the future. If we switched to a popular vote, the only thing they would control is the cities.

It's not accurate to call those small islands of democrats surrounded by Trump supporters. They are small islands with huge fifth columns of Trump supporters already on them.

Yeah, Trump got like 335,000 votes in Miami-Dade County, but were outnumbered 2-1

[Speaker to Animals]

Consider also with respect to those blue towers.. there exists large republican minorities in those districts who don't vote (or might vote third party if they vote at all). If you went to a popular vote, the floodgates would open.

I can't believe democrats are still harping on the popular vote thing. The electoral college is the only thing that is keeping them at least hypothetically relevant in the future. If we switched to a popular vote, the only thing they would control is the cities.

It's not accurate to call those small islands of democrats surrounded by Trump supporters. They are small islands with huge fifth columns of Trump supporters already on them.

Yeah, Trump got like 335,000 votes in Miami-Dade County, but were outnumbered 2-1

Those are the people that actually bothered to vote when it was hopeless too.

[C-Mag]

Consider also with respect to those blue towers.. there exists large republican minorities in those districts who don't vote (or might vote third party if they vote at all). If you went to a popular vote, the floodgates would open.

I can't believe democrats are still harping on the popular vote thing. The electoral college is the only thing that is keeping them at least hypothetically relevant in the future. If we switched to a popular vote, the only thing they would control is the cities.

It's not accurate to call those small islands of democrats surrounded by Trump supporters. They are small islands with huge fifth columns of Trump supporters already on them.

Yeah, Trump got like 335,000 votes in Miami-Dade County, but were outnumbered 2-1

Those are the people that actually bothered to vote when it was hopeless too.

In your experience on the Blue Islands, what percentage of Red voters stay home, vs the ones that vote ?

[Speaker to Animals]

Illinois is the least republican state in the union, and they still manage to elect republican governors.

They are becoming even more republican:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

I can't find a good figure on how many of the actual Cook county voters are registered republican these days, but about ten years I go I think I remember somewhere near 20%. With a similar trend in all the major cities, you are probably looking at -- AT LEAST -- a 10-15% boost in votes for republicans just by switching to a popular vote. That's probably bare minimum.

If the GOP continues with the Trump transformation, the republican base is going to be absolutely massive by the end of his eight years as it is. He has to follow through with his campaign promises that actually elected him, though. If he does that stuff, I think we will start to see some pretty crazy states flipping red over the next seven years.

[Speaker to Animals]

Yeah, Trump got like 335,000 votes in Miami-Dade County, but were outnumbered 2-1

Those are the people that actually bothered to vote when it was hopeless too.

In your experience on the Blue Islands, what percentage of Red voters stay home, vs the ones that vote ?

Anecdotally.. I'd have to say most of them stay home unless there is some chance to unseat a democrat governor. Some of them go just to vote out the current judges. It's a religion amongst conservatives there to vote FUCK NO for any judge, since you are damned near guaranteed that any Cook county judge is a corrupt piece of shit that works for the party. I used to think that was unfair because it's still possible there's a decent judge in there. Then I went through a divorce..

I am sure turnout amongst republican voters changes. They obviously saw a surge for Trump. As crazy as it sounds, I do actually think Illinois could potentially flip to the GOP in a few decades.

The gubernatorial election is essentially a popular vote within the entire state. Republicans do pretty fucking well there. Chicago-area republicans will turn out for a good republican candidate with a chance to actually win.

And the democrats really did just lose the white working class vote, so there's that..

[The Conservative]

Illinois is the least republican state in the union, and they still manage to elect republican governors.

They are becoming even more republican:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

I can't find a good figure on how many of the actual Cook county voters are registered republican these days, but about ten years I go I think I remember somewhere near 20%. With a similar trend in all the major cities, you are probably looking at -- AT LEAST -- a 10-15% boost in votes for republicans just by switching to a popular vote. That's probably bare minimum.

If the GOP continues with the Trump transformation, the republican base is going to be absolutely massive by the end of his eight years as it is. He has to follow through with his campaign promises that actually elected him, though. If he does that stuff, I think we will start to see some pretty crazy states flipping red over the next seven years.

Illinois is the least Republican? Try Mass. We have been blue almost forever. The only time it went red was Reagan.

[Speaker to Animals]

Illinois is the least republican state in the union, and they still manage to elect republican governors.

They are becoming even more republican:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

I can't find a good figure on how many of the actual Cook county voters are registered republican these days, but about ten years I go I think I remember somewhere near 20%. With a similar trend in all the major cities, you are probably looking at -- AT LEAST -- a 10-15% boost in votes for republicans just by switching to a popular vote. That's probably bare minimum.

If the GOP continues with the Trump transformation, the republican base is going to be absolutely massive by the end of his eight years as it is. He has to follow through with his campaign promises that actually elected him, though. If he does that stuff, I think we will start to see some pretty crazy states flipping red over the next seven years.

Illinois is the least Republican? Try Mass. We have been blue almost forever. The only time it went red was Reagan.

No, it's literally the least republican state in the union, even less so than Mass. That wasn't hyperbole.

[The Conservative]

Illinois is the least republican state in the union, and they still manage to elect republican governors.

They are becoming even more republican:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

I can't find a good figure on how many of the actual Cook county voters are registered republican these days, but about ten years I go I think I remember somewhere near 20%. With a similar trend in all the major cities, you are probably looking at -- AT LEAST -- a 10-15% boost in votes for republicans just by switching to a popular vote. That's probably bare minimum.

If the GOP continues with the Trump transformation, the republican base is going to be absolutely massive by the end of his eight years as it is. He has to follow through with his campaign promises that actually elected him, though. If he does that stuff, I think we will start to see some pretty crazy states flipping red over the next seven years.

Illinois is the least Republican? Try Mass. We have been blue almost forever. The only time it went red was Reagan.

No, it's literally the least republican state in the union, even less so than Mass. That wasn't hyperbole.

Did you look at the map that was just pushed on this topic? Mass was 100% blue...

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[Okeefenokee]

Yeah, just to show how much of the public perceives their elected leader is a major thing.

These polling groups were wrong by 15 to 20 points in the election. Why trust them now ?

They seemed to be dead right about Clinton getting the popular vote.

First of all, polls weren't putting Clinton ahead base on popular vote. So we can throw out that lie. Polls were stating that Clinton held a commanding lead in the electoral college.

Second, here's what the actual popular vote difference was.

65,853,516(Clinton)-62,984,825(Trump) = 2,868,691 votes.

2,868,691/136,669,237(Total votes) = 2.09% popular vote difference.

So, even if the polls had been tallying the popular vote outcome, which they weren't, that it came in with a 2% gap means it's a virtual tie. Margin of error is typically plus/minus 5 points.

Now, on the electoral side, which is what the polls were actually forecasting, your fake news aside,

304(Trump)-227(Clinton) = 77 electoral votes.

77/538 = 14.3% electoral vote difference.

That right there is what you call not within the margin of error.

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