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Post by C-Mag » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:05 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote: There wouldn't be anyone to impeach me; soon as I was Commander-in-Chief, I would have congress rounded up and permanently detained in an extrajudicial black hole under the rubric of "fighting corruption", Smitty Putin FTW.

Fire Mueller? No, no, fire them all, right into my gulag archipelago, mwahahahahaha! Slava Amerika!
You have stand in line, Imperator Carlus has first dibs.
Nah, you're too soft on Americans, you couldn't bring yourself to carry out the false flag nuclear terrorist attacks on US soil in order to suspend the constitution and seize permanent emergency war powers as Imperator. Smitty Putin FTW.
:lol:

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Post by ssu » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:09 am

C-Mag wrote:So that's what ya got ssu :lol:
C-Mag, if you would just stop going with the GOP denial thing, yeah, that is only what Trump did. He was excited to get help from the Russians, thought it was a win-win. Likely got money from the Russians. If so, likely Mueller will find out. And that is because Trump simply was so clueless and ignorant of what he was doing (which is obvious from his famous TV appearance asking Russia to do more). Trump was simply ignorant about the FBI having as it's mission a thing like keeping taps on what foreign intelligence services do in the US.

What is the whimsical, delusional argument is that "Trump won the elections because of Russia". Which is nonsense. If someone tilted the votes in favour of Trump, heck, it was Comey and the FBI with their October surprise. Hillary was simply an awfull candidate.

And btw, what did the Russian intelligence agencies uncover apart of the disinformation campaign to morons who believe everything in the social media? That the DNC was biased towards Hillary and against a socialist old-timer Bernie Sanders. That actually was little compared to the "huuuuge" email scandal, which was 100% the typical GOP Clinton smackdown.
C-Mag wrote:OMG .............. Trump talked to Russians - Not illegal
Praising Putin - Not Illegal
Pro-Russian - Not Illegal, hell Smitty has claimed to be a Russophile, should Smitty be impeached ?
You have stocks in CNN or something ?
Changing stance on Republican policy on Ukraine might be it. But all that ended with the Marine generals in the Trump administration. Russia actually didn't do much with Trump. It's totally understandable that Putin is now dissappointed with Trump.
C-Mag wrote:The FBI used false intelligence gathered by Russian Agents and compiled by a British Agent.

Further the FBI did not verify the information in the Dossier.
Lol.

First of all, just like with the Seth Rich story (and thinking it was just about hacking DNC), you haven't noticed that a lot of the whole Russian operation isn't in the dossier, the dossier isn't the only thing here. The dossier doesn't speak of the various meetings with Russians that Trump had, which now are part of the evidence (like the "I love it" e-mails"). And furthermore, a lot in that dossier has been corroborated, like the fact that Carter Page did meet with Russian officials (which was corroborated By Page himself). The lurid allegations of golden showers should be treated with suspicion (which actually the even the dossier says).

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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:51 am

ssu wrote:Changing stance on Republican policy on Ukraine might be it.
And this is the "crime" they are going to try to hang on a President?

Mag's is right, ssu, you do sound like you work for CNN.

The Russians lobbying the Trump campaign to change a policy, and then trying to help him get elected, is just politics, and as such, not any sort of offense which would take a President down.

So this a total waste of time and effort by the Democrats and NeverTrumps, they're just propping him up, instead of having to run on his record, or rather lack thereof, he can just run on; "the media is in the pocket of the Democrat party and Establishment, and they are all colluding to overthrow the will of the electorate"; which is a win-win for Trump, not to mention that it's true.
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Post by ssu » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:39 am

Smitty-48 wrote: And this is the "crime" they are going to try to hang on a President?

The Russians lobbying the Trump campaign to change a policy, and then trying to help him get elected, is just politics, and as such, not any sort of offense which would take a President down.
You can end being right, Smitty. Let's see if it does finish Trump or not. And call it lobbying or whatever, but just don't deny the obvious... which you aren't.

Heck, I come from a country from which a term "finlandization" was invented to tell how one country gets influence over another. And as I've said, the Russian influence attempt didn't get very far from the brief honeymoon Trump had with them.

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Post by ssu » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:55 am

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ssu wrote:Yeah, It all did end once Trump landed in the White House. All the Pro-Russian advisers were soon whisked away. Trump's policies were back to normal GOP foreign policy.
Don't forget the back to normal GOP domestic policy, tax cuts for the wealthy, deregulating Wall Street, drug war prohibition retrenchment, Capital Gains, Comcast, and Cannabis Felonies for the win. . . .

. . . . but hey, at least they didn't invade Syria and re-authorize warrantless domestic surveillance by the NSA. . . . oh, wait. . . .
Yep. So true.

I do believe that Trump is like the person that will sign anything that is put forward to him as he's not interested in politics or the government, but it isn't a cakewalk for his handlers as Trump will say or tweet something that hits them totally offguard and easily distracted. You don't have to read "Fire and Fury" just look at Trump on a meeting, where a Republican has to jump in as Trump is going fully aboard with the democrat proposal.


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Post by kybkh » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:46 am

You are an interesting case SSU. You are exposed to the most cognizant pro-Trump arguments available through this board either via an individual poster or an attached article/podcast, yet you are still hooked in deep to the CNN narrative.

If the simple fact that the Fusion GPS guy met with Natalia both before and after the Trump Tower Meeting does not at least put pause on the story as it is being told??

I seriously would like to know what it would take for you to even consider the possibility that the TTM was a FBI style entrapment ploy set-up by a dirt digging firm paid for by the DNC, which employed a FISA judges wife, and was simply taking advantage of the Trump Campaign's inexperience.

When you look at the facts, it as obvious as day. Nothing else explains the scenario.

Oh yeah, guess what was excluded from the Dossier...the TTM. The "Russian Research Expert" failed to discover that meeting ever occurred... :whistle:
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Post by C-Mag » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:01 am

McCabe just RESIGNED
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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:07 am

C-Mag wrote:McCabe just RESIGNED
Need some context. Was he Comey's second-in-command?
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Post by kybkh » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:09 am

C-Mag wrote:McCabe just RESIGNED
The fact CNN is not announcing this as a full-throated "forced out through undermining by president" yet is surprising...and as I am typing this at 1:07 PM that exact phrase is used on CNN and this will be part of the narrative about Trump pressuring the DOJ...

CNN says "sources" claim he was tired of being attacked by POTUS and McCabe was ready to go. Say "mutual decision" at least 7 times in report. Very Trump like. They want that to be the take away for now, "Mutual Decision".

Media spin includes describing this as a "surprise" or "jolt".
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Post by C-Mag » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:10 am

What most people miss about this FBI corruption is viewing it as a partisan issue. This isn't D v R, but short sighted people can only see through that window.

This is about the uni party deep state v. Citizens. This is about all the shit Carlin used to harp on about 4th Amendment abuses. This is about what's happened to the FISA Courts.

This entire thing is about what the Intel Community has been doing for the last 15 years.

Ssu you are the only partisan fool here. I say investigate Trump and all of them, make the findings transparent. .... WTF do you want.
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