THE ERA OF TRUMP

[SuburbanFarmer]

So, if I'm keeping up...

Lobbyists working for Ukraine's government (??) End up in charge of BOTH party campaigns for POTUS.
Putin takes Crimea, and Ukraine is in civil war.
Reality-show moron wins election,
Payoff records are found by FBI investigation
Indictments for everybody

Nobody knows wtf was really going on, or why. This is awesome.

Theory: Putin orchestrated this somehow, to gain leverage over both candidates, to keep us from reacting to Crimean/Ukranian invasion?

[TheReal_ND]

Oh what incestuous webs we weave

[SuburbanFarmer]

Oh what incestuous webs we weave

Just about a year before his other son died of "brain cancer".

[kybkh]

Oh what incestuous webs we weave

The most under reported story of the Obama administration.

The fact that this wasn't a scandal of epic proportions tells you all you need to know about the media.

>Support coup of democratically elected government.
>Tell EU to get fucked and put your friendos in charge.
>VP son gets appointed to government owned natural gas company.

[Hastur]

So they paid them tens of millions of dollars to do PR for Yanukovych in the west? What a spectacular failure. They should have kept the money and bought some facebook ads instead. I hear those are really powerful when it comes to swaying public opinion.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I don't know about that. I'd like to know if Boris and Natasha are pumping psi-ops into our elections.

You need someone to confirm for you that foreign governments have an obligation to their peoples to do whatever is possible to provide for and secure their nations? This includes but is not limited to...

>Assisting coups against governments deemed unfriendly to their nations interests.

The U.S. has a long history of attempting to influence presidential elections in other countries – it’s done so as many as 81 times between 1946 and 2000

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us- ... story.html

>Fighting proxy wars to limit rival nations influence.

(The Greek Civil War, The Korean War, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya)

>Producing propaganda to weaken a rival and promote their own interests.

The CIA’s use of the American news media has been much more extensive than Agency officials have acknowledged publicly or in closed sessions with members of Congress. The general outlines of what happened are indisputable; the specifics are harder to come by. CIA sources hint that a particular journalist was trafficking all over Eastern Europe for the Agency

The Agency’s special relationships with the so‑called “majors” in publishing and broadcasting enabled the CIA to post some of its most valuable operatives abroad without exposure for more than two decades. In most instances, Agency files show, officials at the highest levels of the CIA usually director or deputy director) dealt personally with a single designated individual in the top management of the cooperating news organization.

http://carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

You need the government to confirm this to you?

I prefer actual evidence of particular events. If we are in an information arms race with our rivals, I support having a well armed populace.

The CIA is also behind Readers Digest abridged/omnibus editions in print. What of it? I don't buy into this whole moral equivalency schtick. Rather, if there is a moral equivalency, I'll side with the CIA over the Kremlin, since those are the G-men I paid for, after all.

[Martin Hash]

Saying “good job, guys,” when your side does it is politik real. Screaming “OMG!” When the other side does it is hypocrisy.

[TheReal_ND]

TICK TOCK DRUMPFY

#IMPEACH45

[Martin Hash]

It’s Hillary’s turn!

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Saying “good job, guys,” when your side does it is politik real. Screaming “OMG!” When the other side does it is hypocrisy.

Saying 'good job' when the other guys do it is either edgy for the sake of it or being an idiot, screaming OMG when your guys do it is just super gay.

Acting like all governments are morally equivalent is pure Chomsky. My RA is super cool though, and lets us watch MSNBC and Vice in the common areas after curfew, so me and my friends are all pretty cued into international politics. I hope the girls with lip rings and purple streaks in their hair are listening whenever I point out that America did some pretty bad shit too.