America Ain’t That Great?

[Speaker to Animals]

If they don't prosecute her, they will only embolden her to continue attacking men until the day a man hits her back and she cries victim.

[C-Mag]

Video of the intolerant Troglodyte and spineless father here:
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/08 ... taken/amp/

She's just doing what lefty political leaders and media have encouraged her to do.

[Haumana]

Video of the intolerant Troglodyte and spineless father here:
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/08 ... taken/amp/

[Ph64]

Video of the intolerant Troglodyte and spineless father here:
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/08 ... taken/amp/

She's just doing what lefty political leaders and media have encouraged her to do.

I believe is was a liberal Democrat who once said...

"Those who make peaceful hat wearing impossible make violent hat wearers inevitable."

...or something along those lines.

[C-Mag]

Video of the intolerant Troglodyte and spineless father here:
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/08 ... taken/amp/

She's just doing what lefty political leaders and media have encouraged her to do.

I believe is was a liberal Democrat who once said...

"Those who make peaceful hat wearing impossible make violent hat wearers inevitable."

...or something along those lines.

Nice Work Fitzgerald !

[katarn]

NOT AN ATTACK ON THE 1ST AMENDMENT

• Rep. Maxine Waters (D) - "“If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”"
  
  = government official calling people of this country to focus protests on highest eschelon government officials over a heinous policy that destroys families and abuses children, that they are directly responsible for and could do something about. Nope, not an attack on the 1st amendment.
  
  Rep. Ted Deutch (D) (grilling FB reps) - "You recently decided not to ban Infowars, can you explain that decision? ... How many strikes does a conspiracy theorist who attacks grieving parents and student survivors of mass shootings get?"
  
  This is the government struggling to deal in a Congressional query with the monopolies it has allowed to flourish, that are so big they have in some cases similar power to government. But FB can and do ban whoever they want, their actions are not government actions. The rep was pointing out how to the layman, however, Infowars certainly breeched FB protocol on acceptable content -- rules that FB created. Not 1st amendment violation.
  
  Rep. Jamie Raskin (D)(grilling FB reps) - “You guys are private, journalistic entities right now, but if you’re going to be ideologically badgered and bulldozed to take positions in the interest of the right-wing politics, then we are going to have to look at what’s happening there, because then at that point there’s not viewpoint neutrality,”
  
  The rep is explaining that based on the way FB explained their rules, Infowars should have been taken down. Asking whether this is because of right-wing pressure. Maybe hinting towards beginning to consider regulation of FB, taking them out of the category of protected 4th estate journalism to something else. I find it very marginal but I'll give you this one.
  
  Sen Ron Wyden (D) - “I think what the Alex Jones case shows, we’re gonna really be looking at what the consequences are for just leaving common decency in the dust, ... What I’m gonna be trying to do in my legislation is to really lay out what the consequences are when somebody who is a bad actor, somebody who really doesn’t meet the decency principles that reflect our values, if that bad actor blows by the bounds of common decency, I think you gotta have a way to make sure that stuff is taken down.”

I'm of the opinion that the Sandy Hook stuff Jones has done blows past 1st amendment protection and goes right to targeted harassment and defamation, which is NOT protected speech. So no, not a direct 1st amendment attack in my book.

ATTACK ON THE 1ST AMENDMENT

• President Donald Trump (R) - "The NFL National Anthem Debate is alive and well again, can’t believe it! Isn’t it in contract that players must stand at attention, hand on heart? The $40,000,000 Commissioner must now make a stand. First time kneeling, out for game. Second time kneeling, out for season/no pay!"

Oh, but you conveniently left out the dozens of tweets and statements he's made on this subject over the past year. Or the pressure put on ESPN. Or the meetings with the NFL. And this is the highest elected official, the head of the executive branch, pressuring individual citizens, their employers, and their employers' media, to make them STOP peacefully protesting, which is protected speech. Yep, an attack on the 1st amendment.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


*Note: Trump supporters and cabinet members have been harassed, attacked, and run out of public establishments. InfoWars is banned from YouTube, Apple, and Facebook. Zero NFL players have faced consequences for kneeling during the anthem.

Uh, Kaepernick has been blackballed, and the season hasn't started yet, the season in which Trump wants to see penalties and fines, people let go with no pay for second infraction, etc. NFL agreed to fines in May, which haven't had a chance to happen yet. You don't just get to bring in Trump supporters either. I have seen no story where private citizen Trump supporters have been run out of anywhere, or yelled at in any other way than protester-counter protester. Infowars violated all of those companies' stated policies for content, and AJ is likely to lose his defamation trial.

I'm with Beto on this one:

"Non-violently, peacefully, while the eyes of this country are watching these games, they take a knee to bring our attention and our focus to this problem to ensure that we fix it," O'Rourke said, referring to players who protest police brutality against unarmed African-Americans, a trend started by former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick in 2016. "I can think of nothing more American than to peacefully stand up, or take a knee, for your rights, anytime, anywhere, or any place," O'Rourke continued.

I don't follow football too closely, but I thought I heard Kaepernick's situation was as much a factor of his poor showing as of his protests. Also, anything put in play by the NFL can't simply be considered an effect of Trump's words, since there's the pretty steep economic impact of the protests on the NFL. Sure it's still related and intertwined with Trump, but its more complex than you make it seem. Especially considering that their protests aren't actually protected speech in terms of punishment/restrictions by the NFL, which is free to oblige them not to kneel any time it wants to. Do I like what Trump is doing? No. Is it still bad? Probably. But is he the cause of the NFL's reaction to the kneeling? Probably not the main one.

And on you saying you haven't even seen cases of Trump supporters being yelled at outside of protests, I know some others have already posted articles showing the truth of the matter, but I can assure you from experience it happens outside of those, especially in places like schools (experience of seeing it firsthand, and sometimes from being misconstrued myself as a Trump guy).

[Martin Hash]

We’ve kind of come to the conclusion that ooky, if it is ooky, is running a sophisticated troll, exploiting her longterm credibility gained at DCF. I don’t like people manipulating my friendship, so we’ll have to see how her next interaction with us, if there is one, works out?

[C-Mag]

We’ve kind of come to the conclusion that ooky, if it is ooky, is running a sophisticated troll, exploiting her longterm credibility gained at DCF. I don’t like people manipulating my friendship, so we’ll have to see how her next interaction with us, if there is one, works out?

Has anyone here seen other sites where she is posting ? I know the one Nuke posted, but are there others ?

[Montegriffo]

Keep up CM.
Nuke copy pasted Ooky's words onto 4chan.
Sure, Martin can take any action he wants on his site but let's not go censoring people for something they haven't done.

[Martin Hash]

Keep up CM.
Nuke copy pasted Ooky's words onto 4chan.
Sure, Martin can take any action he wants on his site but let's not go censoring people for something they haven't done.

Is this your suspicion or do you have some evidence?

p.s. It seems easy enough for ooky to deny; let's ask her, see what she says?