The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

[Smitty-48]

I don’t think we’re talking National Guard. This will be Emergency Deployment to defend against the invading hordes. 50,000 kid refugees under Obama, who then used the “chain migration” law to bring their families in. The President has the ability to prevent that: Obama chose to accommodate it, Trump to prevent. This is a winning strategy.

The President doesn't have the ability to employ the military to do that, he could have ICE deport people, but not the military, he could have CBP arrest people at the border, but not the military, the law is clear, the federal government is prohibited from employing the military to conduct law enforcement on US soil.

[Smitty-48]

Sending US troops to the border to do anything but actually secure the border against migrants, which you'd think Americans would be aware is prohibited by Posse Comitatus; classic Washington dog n' pony show political stunt, most expensive dog n' pony shows the American taxpayer can buy, and both parties do it, nothing "Outsider" about that, Trump doing the same as his predecessors have done, exactly. Bush 2.0 /shrugs

Posse comitatus applies to using troops against Americans. We can use them against migrants. The catch is that once they are detained they get habeas corpus and due to the fact they aren't from an adjoining country they can't be easily deported.

False. Posse Comitatus prohibits the federal government from employing the military to conduct law enforcement on US soil, doesn't matter against who, it's not about who, it's all about where.

[Martin Hash]

Take the first 100 yards from Mexico. Cause an international incident. Lefties are kidding themselves if they think average Joe American gives a shit: 60-80% will back Trump. Turn up the gas. Draw lines. Cause a reaction then crush the reactionaries.

[Smitty-48]

The President could seek a AUMF to conduct operations inside Mexico, but one; congress is going to shoot Trump down, he doesn't have the juice to get that passed, and two; if you attack Mexico you'd be shooting yourselves in the foot, because that would incite more Mexicans to flee to the US not less, you'd be flooded with refugees claiming asylum from the war zone.

[Martin Hash]

When Mexico responds to having their territory seized, make a deal with them to substitute their own soldiers into the No-Mans Land. Point machine guns at the Mexican guard towers: see a refugee, shoot the guards.

[Martin Hash]

Trump is not afraid to do this shit so Mexico will probably Beta: pay for The Wall and patrol their side. It will only take one more 1000 person refugee “caravan” to set the whole thing in motion.

[Smitty-48]

Yeah, ok, sure.

[TheReal_ND]

Sending US troops to the border to do anything but actually secure the border against migrants, which you'd think Americans would be aware is prohibited by Posse Comitatus; classic Washington dog n' pony show political stunt, most expensive dog n' pony shows the American taxpayer can buy, and both parties do it, nothing "Outsider" about that, Trump doing the same as his predecessors have done, exactly. Bush 2.0 /shrugs

Posse comitatus applies to using troops against Americans. We can use them against migrants. The catch is that once they are detained they get habeas corpus and due to the fact they aren't from an adjoining country they can't be easily deported.

False. Posse Comitatus prohibits the federal government from employing the military to conduct law enforcement on US soil, doesn't matter against who, it's not about who, it's all about where.

I say we can bend the rules just as much as any Democrat does if it comes down to it. LbJ federalized the NatGaurd to enforce desegregation. I haven't gotten my hopes up about it, although I'm pleased it has gotten attention at the very least.

[Martin Hash]

Yeah, ok, sure.

Dude, you know what I’m saying is the kind of thinking that end-runs traditional political roadblocks. FDR would have done something like it; hell, he put Japanese Americans in internment camps.

[Smitty-48]

Posse comitatus applies to using troops against Americans. We can use them against migrants. The catch is that once they are detained they get habeas corpus and due to the fact they aren't from an adjoining country they can't be easily deported.

False. Posse Comitatus prohibits the federal government from employing the military to conduct law enforcement on US soil, doesn't matter against who, it's not about who, it's all about where.

I say we can bend the rules just as much as any Democrat does if it comes down to it. LbJ federalized the NatGaurd to enforce desegregation. I haven't gotten my hopes up about it, although I'm pleased it has gotten attention at the very least.

Plausible I suppose, but I don't think Trump is going to do it, he talks a big game, but when it comes right down to it, he's basically Bush 2.0 /shrugs