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[Smitty-48]

As to fermi.

I think it will be a slow silent death to technology rather than a boom.

Not buying that neither, you say you are a man of faith; live what you say.

To the stars and beyond, the Declaration of Independence will never die.

[nmoore63]

As to fermi.

I think it will be a slow silent death to technology rather than a boom.

Not buying that neither, you say you are a man of faith; live what you say.

To the stars and beyond, the Declaration of Independence will never die.

Aye.

I can fight the battle and still be honest about how I think the story will end.

National basic income from the likes of dsl combined with the safe spaces of the left will eventually lead to the people having no need or desire to do anything. All needs met. All boredom amused.

Perhaps I am wrong. I could live with that.

[Smitty-48]

Hardships do not deter us, the God of the Hebrews is with you, always; no fears on earth.

[Smitty-48]

On the one hand we have already beaten the Fermi paradox.

https://www.space.com/22729-voyager-1-s ... space.html


On the other hand we are totally going to annihilated ourselves. Only get so many rolls before snake eyes final shows.

Actually going to catch up to Voyager 1 before it gets very far, at its current velocity, it's 40,000 years to the next star for Voyager 1, which would be at least four complete human civilizations back to back, very likely to pass it, even after a contervalue nuclear exchange and prolonged recovery in the wake of it, could probably have several nuclear wars, and still recover in time to catch Voyager 1 before it actually gets anywhere.

Eleven billion miles away is basically the same place for all intents and purposes astronautical, in cosmic terms, Voyager 1 hasn't really moved at all.

I mean, there are over seven billion people on earth, could wipe out a billion and barely even notice that anybody was missing, a nuclear war would only be about one hundred fifty million, which wouldn't even put a dent in it. As recently as 1850 there was only a billion people on earth, you'd have to have two dozen nuclear wars just to get back to something like that.

Bear in mind, Fermi was a non hacker, he was "appalled" at even the idea of a hydrogen bomb, so he went peacenik on you, can't trust his calculations, it's all tainted by ideological bias, as if all the alien races in all the galaxies couldn't have survived the relatively minor in the grand scheme of things impact of some sort of global thermonuclear war, get real, Enrico, ya fuckin' bolshie sympathizer.

I mean, fuckin' Manhattan Project, it was a buncha commies, foreigners, and Jews, can't rely on anything they said after the war, they all went Beatnik and started shilling for the Reds, "ZOMG hydrogen bombs, quick, let's all capitulate to the Soviets to save the world from the Fermi Paradox!"

I see what you did there, Enrico, ya fuckin' turncoat.

[GloryofGreece]

Its communist to be concerned about the destruction of the world, or losing a billion people, or wondering just exactly what would be the effect to the eco system, the soil, the climate, the radiation fallout etc. etc. You sound a bit like the caricature Kubrick made in his film. Do you have children?

[nmoore63]

Its communist to be concerned about the destruction of the world, or losing a billion people, or wondering just exactly what would be the effect to the eco system, the soil, the climate, the radiation fallout etc. etc. You sound a bit like the caricature Kubrick made in his film. Do you have children?

I do
Smitty doesn’t

[kybkh]

I can't stop myself from being disgusted with Truman. Letting China get away with attacking our forces is one thing. Now you see the result of him not settling matters then.

His restraint is literally the biggest mistake made in the Modern Era.

[DrYouth]

What?

China has always been an insular civilization.... the communist window dressing makes no real difference...
The west was never going to absorb it by conquest.
It was a full blown civilization when the west was in training pants.

Seems to me we are past the total annihilation scenario here... hate to be a kill joy over your thermonuclear nihilistic wet dreams...

This is going to fizzle out...

Just a bunch of Russian oligarchs playing mafia boss... sending out the hit men against their own people.

I guess if they manage to break up all the international coalitions by fanning Brexit style nationalist fantasies they may make some inroads... but that's a long gambit.... and they aren't going to come out on top even then....

[Speaker to Animals]

Horse biscuits.

China is not an older civilization than the West.

It goes back to 200s BC.

Don't let them snow you with their "oldest civilization" myths. It's total nonsense.

Western Civilization goes back to about the 9000s BC.

[nmoore63]

Western civ and China are pretty similar in age.

Though Qin unifies China in the 200s, Lao tzu, Confucius, Mencius, sun tzu et al distinctly Chinese culture in the 500s...

Western civ is similarly around the time of Solon in 500s Greece...