Merican Nazi: An Origin story

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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by clubgop » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:11 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
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Who cares about income tax? Only lefties pay those taxes, they want to pay those taxes, so let them, if you're GOP, you're all about capital gains, baby, your capital gains exemptions more than offset your top marginal income tax rate.
So dems posing about middle class this and that is bullshit? We are agreed. I want all taxes low if not outright eliminated
The more that keep thier own money the better.
The Democrats want to pay income taxes, they're all about progressive taxation, the key is just having two tax systems, income tax for the lefties, and capital gains for the right, and that's how Clinton rolled, he gave conservatives a tax blow job, and got the lefties to vote for it, he's a hero of the right.
No he is not. All those things you mentioned took repeated beatings by a GOP Congress. All those things were trying to preserve the Dems so waifu could run for President.

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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:18 pm

Congress writes the laws, the GOP were in the majority, if they wanted to write a law lowering the top marginal income tax rate, they could have, but they didn't, the Clintoncrats raised the top marginal income tax rate by 2.4 points in 93', then Clinton got pretty much all the Democrats in Congress to vote for an 8 point cut to the top marginal capital gains rate in 97', that's a huge net gain for the top earners, it's not like they really pay the top marginal income tax rate anyways.

Clinton cut net taxes for the top bracket, just a fact, whatever he took away in the income tax rate, he gave back more than three times over in capital gains.

And he had four straight balanced budgets, and spending was cut across the board, Clinton was a conservative, unlike the kooks who are running the GOP now.
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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by clubgop » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:26 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Congress writes the laws, the GOP were in the majority, if they wanted to write a law lowering the top marginal income tax rate, they could have, but they didn't, the Clintoncrats raised the top marginal income tax rate by 2.4 points in 93', then Clinton got pretty much all the Democrats in Congress to vote for a 8 point cut to the top marginal capital gains rate, that's a huge net gain for the top earners, it's not like they really pay the top marginal income tax rate anyways.

Clinton cut net taxes for the top bracket, just a fact, whatever he took away in the income tax rate, he gave back more than three times over in capital gains.
But not for everyone and Clinton would not sign such a bill. All you are doing is reireterating the point that the GOP had to beat him into that corner and he had to fight his way out. Unlike Obama who took the bait and took dems down with him.

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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:30 pm

clubgop wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Congress writes the laws, the GOP were in the majority, if they wanted to write a law lowering the top marginal income tax rate, they could have, but they didn't, the Clintoncrats raised the top marginal income tax rate by 2.4 points in 93', then Clinton got pretty much all the Democrats in Congress to vote for a 8 point cut to the top marginal capital gains rate, that's a huge net gain for the top earners, it's not like they really pay the top marginal income tax rate anyways.

Clinton cut net taxes for the top bracket, just a fact, whatever he took away in the income tax rate, he gave back more than three times over in capital gains.
But not for everyone and Clinton would not sign such a bill. All you are doing is reireterating the point that the GOP had to beat him into that corner and he had to fight his way out. Unlike Obama who took the bait and took dems down with him.
The GOP never let up on him, they went on and on with their hysterical Clinton Derangememt Syndrome, Clinton simply out manuevered them, Triangulation for the win, and just gets a slap on the wrist for Monica Jewlinski, Clinton outfoxed them all, he got away with everything, and dumped it all on Bush in the next administration, which is all what the GOP usually did to the Democrats, so Clinton turned the tables on them, he beat them at their own game.
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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:41 pm

It's like saying that Reagan got boxed in by the Democrats, but so what if he did? He won two elections, got away with Iran Contra, and dumped the savings and loan bomb on to Herbert Walker, enjoy, suckah, Ronnie Raygun FTW.
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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:54 pm

Here's the Presidential checklist in a nutshell;

1. Win both elections. *check*
2. Invade Grenada/Mogadishu, avoid Vietnam/Iraq. *check*
3. Get away with High Crimes and Misdemeanors without being removed from office. *check*
4. Dump the fallout from juicing the stock market on to the next guy. *check*

That's FTW for any President.
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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by clubgop » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:56 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:It's like saying that Reagan got boxed in by the Democrats, but so what if he did? He won two elections, got away with Iran Contra, and dumped the savings and loan bomb on to Herbert Walker, enjoy, suckah, Ronnie Raygun FTW.
No, not the same. Clinton had to triangulate for political survival. Reagan was Bae all the way.

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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by clubgop » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:58 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Here's the Presidential checklist in a nutshell;

1. Win both elections. *check*
2. Invade Grenada/Mogadishu, avoid Vietnam/Iraq. *check*
3. Get away with High Crimes and Misdemeanors without being removed from office. *check*
4. Dump the fallout from juicing the stock market on to the next guy. *check*

That's FTW for any President.
No argument there but Monty still a leftist.

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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:58 pm

clubgop wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:It's like saying that Reagan got boxed in by the Democrats, but so what if he did? He won two elections, got away with Iran Contra, and dumped the savings and loan bomb on to Herbert Walker, enjoy, suckah, Ronnie Raygun FTW.
No, not the same. Clinton had to triangulate for political survival. Reagan was Bae all the way.
Says clubgop the self avowed GOP hack, but in the real world, Reagan triangulated like a muthafuckah too, 1979 Reagan was never seen again after he was elected, he was triangulating all over the place, with his good buddy Tip O'Neill.
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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by clubgop » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:01 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
clubgop wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:It's like saying that Reagan got boxed in by the Democrats, but so what if he did? He won two elections, got away with Iran Contra, and dumped the savings and loan bomb on to Herbert Walker, enjoy, suckah, Ronnie Raygun FTW.
No, not the same. Clinton had to triangulate for political survival. Reagan was Bae all the way.
Says clubgop the self avowed GOP hack, but in the real world, Reagan triangulated like a muthafuckah too.
No he didn't, he made deals and got rolled thereby leading hacks like myself to never trust leftist like Monty again.