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by TheReal_ND » Thu May 11, 2017 8:17 pm
Okeefenokee wrote:heydaralon wrote:David Petraeus said that the biggest lesson he learned from Iraq is the danger of getting too attached to a single sectarian group. That is about the only intelligent thing I've ever heard an establishment figure say about the Middle East. For some reason, the West has had a hard on for the Kurds for decades now. All the hip journalists go visit them, and the politicians always say they are great, but some of the major Iraqi expatriates who urged Neo Cons to invade were Kurdish. The Kurds were some of the main beneficiaries of the 2003 war. I think the Kurds are a cool people and all that, but I don't romanticize them either. They are regional players, who do fucked up stuff when it suits them, and it is in their interest to get a country like the United States to become heavily involved and do their heavy lifting for them.
They are very hard to like one on one.
You meet the kurds?
Yeah.
What'd you think?
Pretty douchy.
You see why Saddam gassed them?
When I first learned about the Kurds from the resident Vikings I thought they were pretty cool. Bjorn kind of warned me off them at one point though, pointing out that they are not all Christian and some of them are actually hardline commies. The mor I learn about them, the less I like them. Imo they are almost as bad as IS as far as motivation goes. They have no right to any fucking land. They should have got along with Iraq instead of bitching out to the west to overthrow Iraq. Iraq seemed to respect them as did Syria. At least to some extent that could have been expanded upon. No. They want to be land grabbing commies instead and they want America to arm them. Tbh fuck the Kurd shits.
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by heydaralon » Thu May 11, 2017 8:18 pm
Okeefenokee wrote:heydaralon wrote:David Petraeus said that the biggest lesson he learned from Iraq is the danger of getting too attached to a single sectarian group. That is about the only intelligent thing I've ever heard an establishment figure say about the Middle East. For some reason, the West has had a hard on for the Kurds for decades now. All the hip journalists go visit them, and the politicians always say they are great, but some of the major Iraqi expatriates who urged Neo Cons to invade were Kurdish. The Kurds were some of the main beneficiaries of the 2003 war. I think the Kurds are a cool people and all that, but I don't romanticize them either. They are regional players, who do fucked up stuff when it suits them, and it is in their interest to get a country like the United States to become heavily involved and do their heavy lifting for them.
They are very hard to like one on one.
You meet the kurds?
Yeah.
What'd you think?
Pretty douchy.
You see why Saddam gassed them?
I've never met a Kurd so idk how they are in person.
Saladin was Kurdish.
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by heydaralon » Thu May 11, 2017 8:20 pm
There are large amounts of Kurds in Iran Iraq Turkey and Syria, and every government in those countries hates the shit out of them. They kind of have their own thing going on in Iraq now, but the baghdad government does not like them at all.
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by TheReal_ND » Thu May 11, 2017 8:22 pm
I've met one. He was sporting an orthodox portrait of Jesus in his shop. I asked him where he was from because he looked Muslim and I was confused young and dumb. He said Iraq I think and that he was a Kurd. Ever sense then I have always kind of associated Kurds with Christian entrepreneurs but like I said, I'm kind of changing my mind on them as a whole.
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by heydaralon » Thu May 11, 2017 8:24 pm
A lot of Turds are Sunni Muslims.
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by TheReal_ND » Thu May 11, 2017 8:30 pm
Well this was mid bush era so he probably got over here for being a persecuted Christian if Bush ever actually had a policy concerning persecuted Christians. I've personally never fucking heard of one despite all the clamoring for one. I would actually support one if there were though. Only for the ME. Fuck Africans and squatamalens tbh. God damnit no more of these people please.
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by heydaralon » Thu May 11, 2017 8:31 pm
lolol squatamelons
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by TheReal_ND » Thu May 11, 2017 8:33 pm
I thought my phone learned how to autocorrect most of my denigrations by now. Apparently I was wrong. Jews are always auto corrected to be capitalized and Assad never is. If you type white america it will refuse to capitalize America though.
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by jbird4049 » Thu May 11, 2017 8:46 pm
GrumpyCatFace wrote:TheReal_ND wrote:Bloodthirsty renegade cyborgs created by tax dodging corporations reek havoc.
Fug. That was the one thing I didn't see coming.... or prepare for
Wreak.
Oh I don't know, I've smelled some smells that would reek havoc on most.
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The best lack all conviction, while the worst
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by jbird4049 » Thu May 11, 2017 8:59 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:Okeefenokee wrote:heydaralon wrote:David Petraeus said that the biggest lesson he learned from Iraq is the danger of getting too attached to a single sectarian group. That is about the only intelligent thing I've ever heard an establishment figure say about the Middle East. For some reason, the West has had a hard on for the Kurds for decades now. All the hip journalists go visit them, and the politicians always say they are great, but some of the major Iraqi expatriates who urged Neo Cons to invade were Kurdish. The Kurds were some of the main beneficiaries of the 2003 war. I think the Kurds are a cool people and all that, but I don't romanticize them either. They are regional players, who do fucked up stuff when it suits them, and it is in their interest to get a country like the United States to become heavily involved and do their heavy lifting for them.
They are very hard to like one on one.
You meet the kurds?
Yeah.
What'd you think?
Pretty douchy.
You see why Saddam gassed them?
When I first learned about the Kurds from the resident Vikings I thought they were pretty cool. Bjorn kind of warned me off them at one point though, pointing out that they are not all Christian and some of them are actually hardline commies. The mor I learn about them, the less I like them. Imo they are almost as bad as IS as far as motivation goes. They have no right to any fucking land. They should have got along with Iraq instead of bitching out to the west to overthrow Iraq. Iraq seemed to respect them as did Syria. At least to some extent that could have been expanded upon. No. They want to be land grabbing commies instead and they want America to arm them. Tbh fuck the Kurd shits.
They are the largest nation in the region that does not have their own country. Kurdistan is a large area covering parts of Syria, Turkey, Iraq, and Iran plus some areas I am sure I've forgotten.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.