United Airlines beats the shit out of passenger

[Speaker to Animals]

(1) People can pay extra for a seat that won't get bumped, but they won't get a refund for it if they fail to show up.
(2) If more people do show up than seats, then turn away additional passengers before they load the plane.
(3) Don't overbook planes in which you plan to seat your own employees.

Oh.. and

(4) Don't be a fucking cunt and attack your passengers while you steal the product or service you sold them..

[TheOneX]

(1) People can pay extra for a seat that won't get bumped, but they won't get a refund for it if they fail to show up.

No one should get a refund if they fail to show up. Most places I know that work on appointments you have to cancel at least no later than 24 hours prior to the appointment to get a refund, often not even a full refund.

[Speaker to Animals]

(1) People can pay extra for a seat that won't get bumped, but they won't get a refund for it if they fail to show up.

No one should get a refund if they fail to show up. Most places I know that work on appointments you have to cancel at least no later than 24 hours prior to the appointment to get a refund, often not even a full refund.

Yeah, but they are not necessarily going to fill that seat within 24 hours, and if they do, it will be a discount most likely.

[TheOneX]

(1) People can pay extra for a seat that won't get bumped, but they won't get a refund for it if they fail to show up.

No one should get a refund if they fail to show up. Most places I know that work on appointments you have to cancel at least no later than 24 hours prior to the appointment to get a refund, often not even a full refund.

Yeah, but they are not necessarily going to fill that seat within 24 hours, and if they do, it will be a discount most likely.

I'm not saying airlines should have a 24 hour prior policy, only that they shouldn't give out refunds to people who just don't show up. If they don't already, they should have a time limit on when you can cancel and still get a refund.

[heydaralon]

Are there any lawyers on this thread? How much money, if any, can this guy expect from the settlement?

[Fife]

Saying they had no right to remove the passenger from the flight is nonsense. They had every right.

Are we sure about that?


14 CFR 250.2a - Policy regarding denied boarding.

In the event of an oversold flight, every carrier shall ensure that the smallest practicable number of persons holding confirmed reserved space on that flight are denied boarding involuntarily.


United Airlines Did Not Have the Legal Right to Refuse Service to the Doctor Dragged Off Its Plane

The fact that the flight was not overbooked may seem trivial, or pedantic, but there is very important legal distinction to be made. There may not be a difference in how an airline (typically) responds when it needs additional seats, such as asking for volunteers who wish to give up their seat for a voucher or cash. But there is a legal difference between bumping a passenger in the instance of overselling a flight versus bumping a passenger to give priority to another passenger. Any thoughtful person can see the problem that arises if an airline were allowed to legally remove one fare-paying passenger to allow for another passenger it prefers.

Since the flight was not actually overbooked, but instead only fully booked, with the exact number of passengers as seats available, United Airlines had no legal right to force any passengers to give up their seats to prioritize others. What United did was give preference to their employees over people who had reserved confirmed seats, in violation of 14 CFR 250.2a. Since Dr. Dao was already seated, it was clear that his seat had already been "reserved" and "confirmed" to accommodate him specifically.

If [BIG "if"] this case gets to a jury on punitives, things could get really ugly.

[Penner]

Well, I am not really sure if this was already posted here but United has changed it's policy in hopes that they won't need a government bailout after being videotaped throwing a bleeding man, kicking and screaming btw, off one of their planes:

United Airlines crew members will no longer be able to bump a passenger who is already seated in one of the airline's planes.

The policy change was first reported by TMZ. A spokesperson for the airline confirms that United has updated its policy "to make sure crews traveling on our aircraft are booked at least 60 minutes prior to departure. This ensures situations like Flight 3411 never happen again."

If the crew member is not booked an hour before the flight, then he or she will have to wait for the next available flight.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... -customers

[Speaker to Animals]

It's too late. The fight right now, in my opinion, is to ensure that the government does not bail this company out. Let it die. Go to bankruptcy court and sell off their assets. The others will learn real fast not to do behave like that.

[TheReal_ND]

Full cuck. Fully fucking cucked.

SHIP FUCKING RULES.

We used to chuck people overboard for this shit. Look at the state we are in now. Fucking cucked.

[Penner]

Also, Delta responded with this new policy because of what happen to United:

In the aftermath of the United scandal, Delta Airlines will allow airline employees to offer up to $9,950 to encourage passengers to give up their seats on overbooked flights, the Associated Press reported on Friday. The change comes as rival United Airlines faces not only broad public backlash, but also a lawsuit stemming from a passenger’s forced removal from a sold-out flight last weekend.

Specifically, the AP said that it had obtained an internal Delta memo authorizing the airline’s gate agents to offer as much as $2,000 in compensation for overbooked flights, up from a previous high of $800, while Delta supervisors can now offer up to $9,950, up from a $1,350 maximum.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-1 ... ed-flights