Trump takes the fight to ISIS

[C-Mag]

...because, in war, you don't want to seal the fate of your enemy?

Or did you mean the ISIS fighters were smart for keeping their weapons? In which case, how is this a victory, or surrender? Sounds like they worked a truce, and agreed to fight again later.

I meant I respected ISIS for keeping their weapons. Personally, not a fan of letting them slip out. But, sounds like Syria's call. I'd rather have burned out the barrels of a couple more Howitzers.

[Speaker to Animals]

Highway of Death is the only viable strategy in cases like this.

These are not honorable soldiers. Letting them go means more innocent people will be tortured and killed by them.

[BjornP]

Trump isn't taking the fight to ISIS. He's ordering US troops to assist ISIS! Russia has the proof:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 54066.html

On Tuesday, the Russian Ministry of Defence said American forces were assisting Isis against Russian-backed forces. And, in a series of social media posts, it attempted to prove “irrefutable facts” of the case. They published photographs from 9 November, which, they said, showed how Isis convoys left Abu Kamal towards areas controlled by American special forces.
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[SuburbanFarmer]

Trump isn't taking the fight to ISIS. He's ordering US troops to assist ISIS! Russia has the proof:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 54066.html

On Tuesday, the Russian Ministry of Defence said American forces were assisting Isis against Russian-backed forces. And, in a series of social media posts, it attempted to prove “irrefutable facts” of the case. They published photographs from 9 November, which, they said, showed how Isis convoys left Abu Kamal towards areas controlled by American special forces.
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way to bury the lead, dickhead

Russia claims US is helping Isis - using video games as evidence

Some photos purporting to show proof of US forces being where they shouldn't be are proven to be from a computer game

On Tuesday, the Russian Ministry of Defence said American forces were assisting Isis against Russian-backed forces.

But there was a problem. As citizen bloggers soon pointed out, the photos that the Russians presented as evidence were familiar. Some had been circulating for days - and in many cases had already been debunked.

One was apparently a screenshot of a smartphone video game, AC-130 Gunship Simulator: Special Ops Squadron. It seems to have been taken from a video published on YouTube on 25 March.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Infinite War is infinite.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-1 ... -deal-isis

Last summer, in a move that angered the US administration, Turkish state media leaked the locations of no less than ten small scale American military bases in northern Syria alone (revelations of US bases in southern Syria began surfacing as well). As another recent Pentagon press conference further acknowledged, these bases - though likely special forces forward operating bases - require a broad network of US personnel operating in various logistical roles inside Syria and likely now includes thousands of US troops deployed on the ground, instead of the Pentagon's official (and highly dubious) "approximately 500 troops in Syria" number.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt ... rty_secret

The deal to let IS fighters escape from Raqqa – de facto capital of their self-declared caliphate – had been arranged by local officials. It came after four months of fighting that left the city obliterated and almost devoid of people. It would spare lives and bring fighting to an end. The lives of the Arab, Kurdish and other fighters opposing IS would be spared.

But it also enabled many hundreds of IS fighters to escape from the city. At the time, neither the US and British-led coalition, nor the SDF, which it backs, wanted to admit their part.

The Kurdish-led SDF cleared Raqqa of media. Islamic State’s escape from its base would not be televised.

Publicly, the SDF said that only a few dozen fighters had been able to leave, all of them locals.

But one lorry driver tells us that isn't true.

We took out around 4,000 people including women and children - our vehicle and their vehicles combined. When we entered Raqqa, we thought there were 200 people to collect. In my vehicle alone, I took 112 people.”

Another driver says the convoy was six to seven kilometres long. It included almost 50 trucks, 13 buses and more than 100 of the Islamic State group’s own vehicles. IS fighters, their faces covered, sat defiantly on top of some of the vehicles.

Footage secretly filmed and passed to us shows lorries towing trailers crammed with armed men. Despite an agreement to take only personal weapons, IS fighters took everything they could carry. Ten trucks were loaded with weapons and ammunition.

[nmoore63]

Infinite War is infinite.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-1 ... -deal-isis

Last summer, in a move that angered the US administration, Turkish state media leaked the locations of no less than ten small scale American military bases in northern Syria alone (revelations of US bases in southern Syria began surfacing as well). As another recent Pentagon press conference further acknowledged, these bases - though likely special forces forward operating bases - require a broad network of US personnel operating in various logistical roles inside Syria and likely now includes thousands of US troops deployed on the ground, instead of the Pentagon's official (and highly dubious) "approximately 500 troops in Syria" number.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt ... rty_secret

The deal to let IS fighters escape from Raqqa – de facto capital of their self-declared caliphate – had been arranged by local officials. It came after four months of fighting that left the city obliterated and almost devoid of people. It would spare lives and bring fighting to an end. The lives of the Arab, Kurdish and other fighters opposing IS would be spared.

But it also enabled many hundreds of IS fighters to escape from the city. At the time, neither the US and British-led coalition, nor the SDF, which it backs, wanted to admit their part.

The Kurdish-led SDF cleared Raqqa of media. Islamic State’s escape from its base would not be televised.

Publicly, the SDF said that only a few dozen fighters had been able to leave, all of them locals.

But one lorry driver tells us that isn't true.

We took out around 4,000 people including women and children - our vehicle and their vehicles combined. When we entered Raqqa, we thought there were 200 people to collect. In my vehicle alone, I took 112 people.”

Another driver says the convoy was six to seven kilometres long. It included almost 50 trucks, 13 buses and more than 100 of the Islamic State group’s own vehicles. IS fighters, their faces covered, sat defiantly on top of some of the vehicles.

Footage secretly filmed and passed to us shows lorries towing trailers crammed with armed men. Despite an agreement to take only personal weapons, IS fighters took everything they could carry. Ten trucks were loaded with weapons and ammunition.

Just. Come. Home.
Yes, BjornP, its worth it.

[clubgop]

This'll be awesome, guys! We just let them go to another city full of people, then we blow that one up too! Whatever survivors crawl out of the rubble will become terrorists too, and then we can keep this going forever! INIFINITE WAR RULES!!!

Lockmart shareholders approve.

Well, we armed them so letting them go is pretty much par, but it's a little more complex than that. This was part of a deal brokered between the Syrian government, who basically made the call and ISIS. The US and coalition forces respected the Syrian Government deal. But as I understand it, the US was not happy with it. The deal called for allowing fighters to leave only with light weapons. No doubt they smuggled other weapons out. No doubt some, if not most will show up on other battlefields. Leaving them with personal weapons is SOP in the ME. Frankly I respect them for that, they understand turning in your weapons is sealing your fate.

...because, in war, you don't want to seal the fate of your enemy?

Or did you mean the ISIS fighters were smart for keeping their weapons? In which case, how is this a victory, or surrender? Sounds like they worked a truce, and agreed to fight again later.

Nevermind you were wrong again on the geography you now display more ignorance. If they were still fighting down to the last ISIS fighter you would crying about the poor civilians and ISIS fighters, lambasting the efficacy of the military or we get an agreement, not our call, because it isn't our boots on the ground, you cry, bitch, and moan cause you got to have something to complain about. INIFINATE COWARDLY BITCH RULES!!!

[Speaker to Animals]

Infinite War is infinite.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-1 ... -deal-isis

Last summer, in a move that angered the US administration, Turkish state media leaked the locations of no less than ten small scale American military bases in northern Syria alone (revelations of US bases in southern Syria began surfacing as well). As another recent Pentagon press conference further acknowledged, these bases - though likely special forces forward operating bases - require a broad network of US personnel operating in various logistical roles inside Syria and likely now includes thousands of US troops deployed on the ground, instead of the Pentagon's official (and highly dubious) "approximately 500 troops in Syria" number.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt ... rty_secret

The deal to let IS fighters escape from Raqqa – de facto capital of their self-declared caliphate – had been arranged by local officials. It came after four months of fighting that left the city obliterated and almost devoid of people. It would spare lives and bring fighting to an end. The lives of the Arab, Kurdish and other fighters opposing IS would be spared.

But it also enabled many hundreds of IS fighters to escape from the city. At the time, neither the US and British-led coalition, nor the SDF, which it backs, wanted to admit their part.

The Kurdish-led SDF cleared Raqqa of media. Islamic State’s escape from its base would not be televised.

Publicly, the SDF said that only a few dozen fighters had been able to leave, all of them locals.

But one lorry driver tells us that isn't true.

We took out around 4,000 people including women and children - our vehicle and their vehicles combined. When we entered Raqqa, we thought there were 200 people to collect. In my vehicle alone, I took 112 people.”

Another driver says the convoy was six to seven kilometres long. It included almost 50 trucks, 13 buses and more than 100 of the Islamic State group’s own vehicles. IS fighters, their faces covered, sat defiantly on top of some of the vehicles.

Footage secretly filmed and passed to us shows lorries towing trailers crammed with armed men. Despite an agreement to take only personal weapons, IS fighters took everything they could carry. Ten trucks were loaded with weapons and ammunition.

Just. Come. Home.
Yes, BjornP, its worth it.

That's the kind of mentality that gave us ISIS.

[C-Mag]

Trump isn't taking the fight to ISIS. He's ordering US troops to assist ISIS! Russia has the proof:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 54066.html

On Tuesday, the Russian Ministry of Defence said American forces were assisting Isis against Russian-backed forces. And, in a series of social media posts, it attempted to prove “irrefutable facts” of the case. They published photographs from 9 November, which, they said, showed how Isis convoys left Abu Kamal towards areas controlled by American special forces.
...

[BjornP]

Trump isn't taking the fight to ISIS. He's ordering US troops to assist ISIS! Russia has the proof:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 54066.html

On Tuesday, the Russian Ministry of Defence said American forces were assisting Isis against Russian-backed forces. And, in a series of social media posts, it attempted to prove “irrefutable facts” of the case. They published photographs from 9 November, which, they said, showed how Isis convoys left Abu Kamal towards areas controlled by American special forces.
...

way to bury the lead, dickhead

Russia claims US is helping Isis - using video games as evidence

Some photos purporting to show proof of US forces being where they shouldn't be are proven to be from a computer game

On Tuesday, the Russian Ministry of Defence said American forces were assisting Isis against Russian-backed forces.

But there was a problem. As citizen bloggers soon pointed out, the photos that the Russians presented as evidence were familiar. Some had been circulating for days - and in many cases had already been debunked.

One was apparently a screenshot of a smartphone video game, AC-130 Gunship Simulator: Special Ops Squadron. It seems to have been taken from a video published on YouTube on 25 March.

Yes, BjornP, its worth it.

It's your country. Me questioning wether total or even partial military disengagement from the world, is or is not worth it for the US, was/is not equal to me trying to persuade you to remain our allies, or subsidizers or whatever. Hopefully you understand that. If I didn't respect the right of the American people to decide the fate of their own country, I wouldn't have stuck around this forum and the DCF for nearly eight years.