Trump's Economic Plan

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:59 pm

Penner wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:800k non citizens voted according to a single survey done. Why would they lie like that?

Where is the proof of that? Voter in-person fraud is like non-existent but this keeps on coming up like it a common thing.
So now you don't believe in polls?
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/ ... m-nonciti/

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Penner » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:36 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Penner wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:800k non citizens voted according to a single survey done. Why would they lie like that?

Where is the proof of that? Voter in-person fraud is like non-existent but this keeps on coming up like it a common thing.
So now you don't believe in polls?
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/ ... m-nonciti/

Your proof hinges on the word, "may" which makes it sound like they don't know.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:43 pm

Penner wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:800k non citizens voted according to a single survey done. Why would they lie like that?

Where is the proof of that? Voter in-person fraud is like non-existent but this keeps on coming up like it a common thing.
Yeah, that's what your side keeps saying, but a survey determined that was a lie.

Washington Times,
Trump argument bolstered: Clinton could have received 800,000 votes from noncitizens

Political scientist Jesse Richman of Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia, has worked with colleagues to produce groundbreaking research on noncitizen voting, and this week he posted a blog in response to Mr. Trump’s assertion.
Based on national polling by a consortium of universities, a report by Mr. Richman said 6.4 percent of the estimated 20 million adult noncitizens in the U.S. voted in November. He extrapolated that that percentage would have added 834,381 net votes for Mrs. Clinton, who received about 2.8 million more votes than Mr. Trump.
Mr. Richman calculated that Mrs. Clinton would have collected 81 percent of noncitizen votes.
“Is it plausible that non-citizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes,” Mr. Richman wrote. “Is it plausible that non-citizen votes account for the entire nation-wide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.”
Still, the finding is significant because it means noncitizens may have helped Mrs. Clinton carry a state or finish better

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:46 pm

Penner wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:
Penner wrote:

Where is the proof of that? Voter in-person fraud is like non-existent but this keeps on coming up like it a common thing.
So now you don't believe in polls?
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/ ... m-nonciti/

Your proof hinges on the word, "may" which makes it sound like they don't know.
Probably because we don't. This is what happens when you give anyone that wants one a way to vote.

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Martin Hash » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:55 pm

The idea that 1% of the vote either way makes a difference is absurd; the number of people who are essentially voting randomly is greater than that. The Electoral College alleviates the problem because randomness works both ways, so if there is a clear EC winner, then that was probably real public preference. Still, the nation is clearly divided & ain't coming back together without some extraneous event, like The Collapse.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:57 pm

He will not divide us!

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:57 pm

Or WW3, which looks more and more likely each month.

Strangely, it sort of looks like China versus Russia and USA. We just would need India to join to finish it.

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:59 pm

I think the EC does negate non citizens voting to some extent because those non citizens tend to flock to already blue districts. The bigger issue I have is when the blue metropolises start to over power the rural and non citizens play an important role in that. One that is frankly, a hanging offense.

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:04 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Or WW3, which looks more and more likely each month.

Strangely, it sort of looks like China versus Russia and USA. We just would need India to join to finish it.
Already there; India is already with you and Russia, against China and Pakistan.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Martin Hash » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:08 pm

Illegally Immigration is NOT about the ideologies of the Illegals, we take Legal Immigrants without too much litmus-testing; no, Illegal Immigration is bad because it circumvents our Nation's Right of Self-Determination. It distorts labor, social services, language, education, and all the other things a Nation has to plan for.
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