Trump's SCOTUS

[Otern]

That's the part that has to end. We should not live in a society where anybody's entire life can be destroyed by a malicious lie with no evidence to back it up.

I think this needs to be investigated thoroughly and if this woman cannot substantiate her allegations, and her story falls apart factually, then she should face legal consequences.

Being the victim of a false rape accusation is WORSE than rape. Women need to understand that. No amount of crying about "what if she was really raped" is going to change my mind because WHAT IF HE IS INNOCENT??

I don't think she should face legal consequences, unless it's proven that she fabricated the whole thing. Which is pretty much impossible to prove in this case.

Most of the time, it's impossible to prove rape, or rape attempts, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't report it, if they can't prove it. It's actually the best way to stop those rapists, as they will not just rape one person. If multiple people with no connections or awareness of each other comes forward with rape allegations against someone, it's very likely we're talking about a rapist.

She might be telling the truth. We don't know. Or she might lie. We also don't know. But there's still innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

[Speaker to Animals]

That's the part that has to end. We should not live in a society where anybody's entire life can be destroyed by a malicious lie with no evidence to back it up.

I think this needs to be investigated thoroughly and if this woman cannot substantiate her allegations, and her story falls apart factually, then she should face legal consequences.

Being the victim of a false rape accusation is WORSE than rape. Women need to understand that. No amount of crying about "what if she was really raped" is going to change my mind because WHAT IF HE IS INNOCENT??

I don't think she should face legal consequences, unless it's proven that she fabricated the whole thing. Which is pretty much impossible to prove in this case.

Most of the time, it's impossible to prove rape, or rape attempts, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't report it, if they can't prove it. It's actually the best way to stop those rapists, as they will not just rape one person. If multiple people with no connections or awareness of each other comes forward with rape allegations against someone, it's very likely we're talking about a rapist.

She might be telling the truth. We don't know. Or she might lie. We also don't know. But there's still innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

It's not impossible to prove. Nobody she named corroborates her story. The party never happened. There are inconsistencies.

When anybody else lies to law enforcement like that, guess where they go.. Ask Martha Stewart how that panned out.

[Otern]

It's not impossible to prove. Nobody she named corroborates her story. The party never happened. There are inconsistencies.

When anybody else lies to law enforcement like that, guess where they go.. Ask Martha Stewart how that panned out.

The other people named, are also under accusation of sexual assault, so it makes sense for them to deny it, if they did it. Or if they didn't.

The party may have happened, or it may not have. She may have remembered incorrectly, 35 years later, doesn't mean it's a malicious lie. Inconsistencies do work in his favor, but it's not evidence of her lying.

This case looks like it's going nowhere, it's impossible to prove anything either way, and therefore, noone should face legal consequences.

[Martin Hash]

It's not impossible to prove. Nobody she named corroborates her story. The party never happened. There are inconsistencies.

When anybody else lies to law enforcement like that, guess where they go.. Ask Martha Stewart how that panned out.

The other people named, are also under accusation of sexual assault, so it makes sense for them to deny it, if they did it. Or if they didn't.

The party may have happened, or it may not have. She may have remembered incorrectly, 35 years later, doesn't mean it's a malicious lie. Inconsistencies do work in his favor, but it's not evidence of her lying.

This case looks like it's going nowhere, it's impossible to prove anything either way, and therefore, noone should face legal consequences.

I don't understand this exchange? If it's nothing for anyone, confirm Kavanaugh and move on. What's the fucking problem?

[DBTrek]

Trying to prove anything in a room where half the people think you can pick your own gender is an effort in futility.

If your sex organs are subjective, then you can give up on the idea of objective truth entirely.

“I self identify my memories as being my truth”
“Bravo. We agree. Case closed.”

[Otern]

I don't understand this exchange? If it's nothing for anyone, confirm Kavanaugh and move on. What's the fucking problem?

Pretty much this.

Especially since it's reasonable to believe it's all just a hit piece to stop him from being confirmed.

It would be a whole other story if these allegations came twenty years ago, but coming now, at this point in his career?

[Speaker to Animals]

It's not impossible to prove. Nobody she named corroborates her story. The party never happened. There are inconsistencies.

When anybody else lies to law enforcement like that, guess where they go.. Ask Martha Stewart how that panned out.

The other people named, are also under accusation of sexual assault, so it makes sense for them to deny it, if they did it. Or if they didn't.

The party may have happened, or it may not have. She may have remembered incorrectly, 35 years later, doesn't mean it's a malicious lie. Inconsistencies do work in his favor, but it's not evidence of her lying.

This case looks like it's going nowhere, it's impossible to prove anything either way, and therefore, noone should face legal consequences.

No, they are not. Every witness she named denies it. Not just the two men accused.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's not impossible to prove. Nobody she named corroborates her story. The party never happened. There are inconsistencies.

When anybody else lies to law enforcement like that, guess where they go.. Ask Martha Stewart how that panned out.

The other people named, are also under accusation of sexual assault, so it makes sense for them to deny it, if they did it. Or if they didn't.

The party may have happened, or it may not have. She may have remembered incorrectly, 35 years later, doesn't mean it's a malicious lie. Inconsistencies do work in his favor, but it's not evidence of her lying.

This case looks like it's going nowhere, it's impossible to prove anything either way, and therefore, noone should face legal consequences.

I don't understand this exchange? If it's nothing for anyone, confirm Kavanaugh and move on. What's the fucking problem?

The problem is that we need to shift this dynamic and start prosecuting women who try to ruin men with false accusations. Being victimized by a false rape allegation is worse than being raped. These women belong in prison.

[Speaker to Animals]

Why do you think her democratic party lawyers are doing everything possible to keep her from testifying under oath? They know she is lying. She is not going to testify because they all know the game is up and this tactic is played out. Once she testifies, prosecutors are going after her.

[Otern]

The problem is that we need to shift this dynamic and start prosecuting women who try to ruin men with false accusations. Being victimized by a false rape allegation is worse than being raped. These women belong in prison.

Sounds a lot like just another witch hunt.

If rape victims need to prove that there's been a rape, or go to jail if they can't prove it, most of them will remain silent, as it's impossible to prove most of the time.

I don't want people to stop accusing rapists of rape, even in cases where it's impossible to prove. But I also don't want to see innocent people go down with no evidence. A case doesn't need to have a winner or a loser for it to have been handled correctly, because a lot of the time there's simply not enough evidence either way.