The Era of Biden
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in terms of opium production
the whole point was to destroy the opium in Afghanistan
the pharmaceutical companies don't want the market flooded with cheap opiates
that undercuts the price
this is why the Taliban started out as America's allies in Afghanistan
this is why the Taliban leaders were invited to Texas as America's honoured guests
they were working with the DEA to destroy the opium
the Taliban are a militia which formed to fight drug dealers
then all of a sudden on 9-11, America flipped sides, sided with the drug dealers against the Taliban
but it was just an alliance of convenience
in order for the Bushies to effect their firepower demonstration
the whole point was to destroy the opium in Afghanistan
the pharmaceutical companies don't want the market flooded with cheap opiates
that undercuts the price
this is why the Taliban started out as America's allies in Afghanistan
this is why the Taliban leaders were invited to Texas as America's honoured guests
they were working with the DEA to destroy the opium
the Taliban are a militia which formed to fight drug dealers
then all of a sudden on 9-11, America flipped sides, sided with the drug dealers against the Taliban
but it was just an alliance of convenience
in order for the Bushies to effect their firepower demonstration
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While that was a factor for a small bunch, I disagree in total.Haumana wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:17 amThis was never about nation building nor oil, it was about the poppies and heroin production.C-Mag wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:01 am
Fair point. I will say that I drank beer with a former SS man in Germany, in his home and he still held his beliefs.
But we were a different people then too. We had no reservations that total victory was the only route.
Even the Lefties don't have Biden's back on this.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/even-joe- ... n?ref=home
It's hard to admit the Progress theory of nation building is a failure.
The Progressives in charge starting with W had 'Experts' trying to change the culture of Afghanistan, we saw it in all this bullshit talk about supporting feminism over there. The government they set up with a centrally planned government that paid no attention to local and tribal leaders, attempting to dictate to them the direction of the country. This is exactly why it all imploded so quickly. We will find out in the coming weeks that entire Afghan military units took off their uniforms and donned the dirty night shirts of the Taliban to fight with them.
Our experts in the state department and intelligence professionals had no clue this would happen.
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that's correct
the Bushies needed some place to do a firepower demonstration
Cheney & Rumsfeld were against it, they said there were no good targets in Afghanistan
but Bush overruled them, said he wanted something done and done right now
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and again, soon as Cheney & Rumsfeld got their way
America immediately dumped Afghanistan and switched to invading Iraq
at that point, America handed the mission off to NATO, and it's been a NATO mission ever since
the only American mission other than propping NATO up
was the SEAL's in country standing by if they found Bin Laden
once DEVGRU Red Squadron hit Bin Laden, that was America's last interest in country complete
America immediately dumped Afghanistan and switched to invading Iraq
at that point, America handed the mission off to NATO, and it's been a NATO mission ever since
the only American mission other than propping NATO up
was the SEAL's in country standing by if they found Bin Laden
once DEVGRU Red Squadron hit Bin Laden, that was America's last interest in country complete
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remember when JSOC split the tasking
Army DELTA would go to Iraq to fight the AQI network
Navy DEVGRU would remain in Afghanistan on stand by for the Bin Laden hunt
the SEAL's were not happy about it, they knew Iraq was the main event at that time
after McChrystal got Zarqawi,
they transferred him to Afghanistan to do the same thing with the Taliban
but the Taliban are not AQ, the Taliban are a much deeper & more committed force
AQ was foreigners, the Taliban are the locals, so the McChrystal method didn't work in Afghanistan
Army DELTA would go to Iraq to fight the AQI network
Navy DEVGRU would remain in Afghanistan on stand by for the Bin Laden hunt
the SEAL's were not happy about it, they knew Iraq was the main event at that time
after McChrystal got Zarqawi,
they transferred him to Afghanistan to do the same thing with the Taliban
but the Taliban are not AQ, the Taliban are a much deeper & more committed force
AQ was foreigners, the Taliban are the locals, so the McChrystal method didn't work in Afghanistan
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Biden and Psaki are AWOL for 6 days now. Even CNN is starting to question what is going on.
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Spec Ops warfare has proven a failure.
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UKSF did the same thing
22 SAS formed Task Force Black and deployed to Iraq
just a small detachment of RM SBS was left in Afghanistan
under NATO command, the most active SOF was the Australians & Canadians
SOCAUST SASR & 2 Commando, CANSOFCOM JTF2 & CSOR
22 SAS formed Task Force Black and deployed to Iraq
just a small detachment of RM SBS was left in Afghanistan
under NATO command, the most active SOF was the Australians & Canadians
SOCAUST SASR & 2 Commando, CANSOFCOM JTF2 & CSOR
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The CCP is smelling blood in the water.
From what happened in Afghanistan, those in Taiwan should perceive that once a war breaks out in the Straits, the island’s defense will collapse in hours and US military won’t come to help. As a result, the DPP will quickly surrender.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202108/1231636.shtml
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All our victories in GWOT were with conventional forces, JSOC prima donna's as force multipliers, not the primary focus.
We were just beaten by conventional forces. JSOC not only didn't slow them down, they didn't seem to know it was happening.
The US military foolishly thought they could fight this as a JSOC war.
We were just beaten by conventional forces. JSOC not only didn't slow them down, they didn't seem to know it was happening.
The US military foolishly thought they could fight this as a JSOC war.
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