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Re: Current US Military

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:33 pm

Remind me why we need an Air Force again? Same reason as the surface navy?

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Re: Current US Military

Post by The Conservative » Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:28 pm

DBTrek wrote:
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Do we tho?
Yes, air superiority is required to control the ground environment more efficiently.
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:34 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:33 pm
Remind me why we need an Air Force again?
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Re: Current US Military

Post by DBTrek » Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:48 pm

Don't necessarily need fighter jets for air superiority.
If your AA defenses can knock everything out of the sky, then you have air superiority.

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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:54 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:48 pm
Don't necessarily need fighter jets for air superiority.
If your AA defenses can knock everything out of the sky, then you have air superiority.

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not actually

Air Superiority is the threshold of being able to use airpower offensively

air defence only is called Air Denial

it's like the F-15 Eagle Air Superiority Fighter is not defensive

it's role is to offensively sweep the enemy out of the way so you can strike
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Re: Current US Military

Post by DBTrek » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:01 pm

The air superiority is the after-effect of being able to down everything.
If your AA can knock everything out of the sky, you can achieve air superiority with hot air balloons.
You'll have the only think in the sky.
Throw rocks from the gondola if you want, offensive air superiority.
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:06 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:01 pm
The air superiority is the after-effect of being able to down everything.
no

there's Air Denial, then Air Parity, then Air Superiority, then Air Supremacy

Air Superiority doesn't down everything, it just means you have the initiative to go offensive

F-22 adds another niche, Air Dominance, which is to operate offensively without gaining Air Superiority, by leveraging Stealth
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Re: Current US Military

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:07 pm

We got drones for strikes. CIA drones, army drones, marine drones, errrbody got drones.
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:08 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:07 pm
We got drones for strikes. CIA drones, army drones, marine drones, errrbody got drones.
all of which actually require Air Supremacy to be established first before you can use them
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Re: Current US Military

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:10 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:08 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:07 pm
We got drones for strikes. CIA drones, army drones, marine drones, errrbody got drones.
all of which actually require Air Supremacy to be established first before you can use them
For which we have SAM batteries.
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