How are things in Yemen?

[clubgop]

I'm gonna let y'all in on a secret- I voted for Dianne Feinstein in the mid-terms.

Why do you hate women?

Wait what? I dont get.

[clubgop]

Since the Midterms are over, I can now troll FB again without getting fucking brigaded. The Left's tactic is to constantly harp on this stuff; and I constantly reply logically. Rarely does anyone go past 2 posts against me. If everybody on my side did the same thing, we could shut this shit down. The people on the other side are losers and misfits, and often outright stupid; it's easy to beat them up online 1-on-1.

Its surface level, they watch 1 Phillip Defranco video (not a knock on him) and think they are experts and just everybody but Nazis agree with them.

[pineapplemike]

The Senate, 63-37, voted to advance the Sanders-Lee resolution to cut off U.S. military assistance to the Saudi war in Yemen.
Still a ways to go in the Senate, no immediate future in the House, but quite something to see actual movement on this

[C-Mag]

Kashogi was a filthy spy. Personally I don't care one way or the other if we arm the Hajjis. I'd rather not have anything to do with them, but we can make some money on Hajjis killing each other.

[heydaralon]

I still don't get why they decided to go about killing him that way. Say what you will about Saudi Arabia, and there is plenty bad to be said, but they understand the game. They know how to lobby, how to PR, how to launch covert wars, and how to simultaneously fund terrorism while minimizing its effects on their own population, and domestically hold the crazy imams and the restless youth and liberalizers at bay. In light of all this, if they decided that this guy was a threat and wanted to take him out, why would they do it in a govt building and in such a gruesome way? They could have hired someone to kill him while jogging, or poisoned him, or fucked with his car. All those would have had plausible deniability. Instead, in the most wanton and brutal fashion, they turned the world spotlight on this and earned the censure of the planet. Were they trying to send a clear message to other journalists? I am baffled by this entire affair. With all this Houthi business, the Qatar shitshow, and their constant Wahabbist bullshit, you'd think they wouldn't want anymore bad headlines.

[C-Mag]

I have no idea why they killed him like that. Had to be better ways to do it.

Here's the deal, everyone is lying about this incident.
SA is lying about the killing him
USA is lying about their knowledge of what happened
US Press is lying about him being a Journalist

Reminds me of the Valeri Plame bullshit, everyone with an angle, everyone lying, no real truth to be had, bad players all around.

[Montegriffo]

I still don't get why they decided to go about killing him that way. Say what you will about Saudi Arabia, and there is plenty bad to be said, but they understand the game. They know how to lobby, how to PR, how to launch covert wars, and how to simultaneously fund terrorism while minimizing its effects on their own population, and domestically hold the crazy imams and the restless youth and liberalizers at bay. In light of all this, if they decided that this guy was a threat and wanted to take him out, why would they do it in a govt building and in such a gruesome way? They could have hired someone to kill him while jogging, or poisoned him, or fucked with his car. All those would have had plausible deniability. Instead, in the most wanton and brutal fashion, they turned the world spotlight on this and earned the censure of the planet. Were they trying to send a clear message to other journalists? I am baffled by this entire affair. With all this Houthi business, the Qatar shitshow, and their constant Wahabbist bullshit, you'd think they wouldn't want anymore bad headlines.

I suspect the same motives as the Salisbury nerve gas attack.
They wanted to send a message.

[Hastur]

Saudi Arabia should be able to care of their own shit. Why do they need American assistance to deal with something like Yemen? I don't get it. It's a small desert country right on their border. Ibn Saud and Muhammad are both turning over in their graves.

[heydaralon]

Saudi Arabia should be able to care of their own shit. Why do they need American assistance to deal with something like Yemen? I don't get it. It's a small desert country right on their border. Ibn Saud and Muhammad are both turning over in their graves.

This isn't even their first go round in Yemen. In the 60's the country split in half from a civil war of sorts. The "republican" Yemen govt got support from Nasser's Egypt, and the monarchists got support from the Saudi's. This country ruins other countries armies lol. It was not a good place to get involved in, and Saudi Arabia should have avoided this trap. Gary Brecher, the war nerd, wrote a great article about Yemen awhile ago, and argued they are among the most resilent, best fighters in the Middle East, despite being one of the poorest countries. Perhaps the worst aspect of this for Saudi Arabia, is that it has shown the world and its hostile Shi'ite neighbors that the Saudi Army is a paper tiger.

This is from the Wikipedia page on the 1962 North Yemen War:
"Egyptian military historians refer to the war in Yemen as their Vietnam.[4] Historian Michael Oren (former Israeli Ambassador to the U.S) wrote that Egypt's military adventure in Yemen was so disastrous that "the imminent Vietnam War could easily have been dubbed America's Yemen."[15]"

[pineapplemike]

Republican leaders move to stall House from taking up Yemen bill
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/12/ ... 56088.html

Republican leadership in Congress moved to stall until next year a broadly supported congressional resolution aimed at ending US support for Saudi Arabia's bombing campaign in Yemen.

The move came as part of a tight procedural vote on Wednesday in the US House of Representatives on an $837bn, five-year agriculture bill.

Tucked within the rules governing the bill is a provision that says the War Powers Resolution, which fast tracks certain bills, won't apply to any resolution related to Yemen for the rest of this Congress.

The move will effectively block the House from taking up any bill on Yemen this year, even if one makes it through the Senate. The House is expected to pass the farm bill later on Wednesday.

The 206-203 House vote is a temporary win for President Donald Trump who has advanced a policy of US support for the Saudi Arabia in Yemen and its wider, regional standoff with Iran.
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House Republicans said a closed-door briefing by US Secretaries of Defense and State scheduled for Thursday would give members of Congress an opportunity to review and discuss the situation in Yemen with senior Trump officials.

The House action on Wednesday effectively undercuts the debate over Yemen in the Senate where a bipartisan majority voted 63-47 earlier this month on a preliminary procedure to advance the measure blocking US military action in Yemen.

Outgoing Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, who is retiring from Congress, had said he would support the Trump White House and oppose the measure on Yemen.