Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by PartyOf5 » Tue May 15, 2018 12:58 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 12:46 pm
DBTrek wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 12:00 pm
Seattle spent a billion unaccountable tax dollars on the homeless issue over ten years.
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Doesn't make sense................. why would anyone do this. What's in it for them ?
Votes from the "feelz" voters. Kickbacks and favors from those receiving the government money, and I don't mean the homeless.

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by PartyOf5 » Tue May 15, 2018 12:59 pm

If Amazon ever does move out of Seattle, they could just have all the homeless lie in Amazon's vacated HQ.

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by DBTrek » Tue May 15, 2018 1:03 pm

PartyOf5 wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 12:59 pm
If Amazon ever does move out of Seattle, they could just have all the homeless lie in Amazon's vacated HQ.
You mean give the homeless the rest of the building.
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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by Fife » Tue May 15, 2018 1:25 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 1:03 pm
PartyOf5 wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 12:59 pm
If Amazon ever does move out of Seattle, they could just have all the homeless lie in Amazon's vacated HQ.
You mean give the homeless the rest of the building.
And many point to companies like Amazon for exacerbating the problem: The company is hiring thousands of people, and its high-paid employees drive up housing prices.
Read that sentence and think about it for a minute.

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by Ph64 » Tue May 15, 2018 1:30 pm

Fife wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 1:25 pm
DBTrek wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 1:03 pm
PartyOf5 wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 12:59 pm
If Amazon ever does move out of Seattle, they could just have all the homeless lie in Amazon's vacated HQ.
You mean give the homeless the rest of the building.
And many point to companies like Amazon for exacerbating the problem: The company is hiring thousands of people, and its high-paid employees drive up housing prices.
Read that sentence and think about it for a minute.
Think?!?! What are you crazy or something?? Can't do that, they run on FEELZ.

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by ooky » Tue May 15, 2018 3:56 pm

From where I sit these companies do have a significant role in what is going on, though. They come into these areas and create so many jobs, and pay high enough salaries for said jobs, that what used to be normal middle class housing becomes crazy expensive. In some cases, a single company will purchase so much of a municipality's area that they have a lot of control on the total housing supply, and how much is or is not added to meet the demand - demand they are largely creating.

A lot of these people (certainly not all) actually have jobs, just not jobs that will allow them to pay rent in the area. Some of the riparian encampments are actually as well set-up as an RV.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/11/07/ ... p-in-cars/
Homeless advocates and city officials say it’s outrageous that in the shadow of a booming tech economy — where young millionaires dine on $15 wood-grilled avocado and think nothing of paying $1,000 for an iPhone X — thousands of families can’t afford a home. Many of the homeless work regular jobs, in some cases serving the very people whose sky-high net worth is the reason housing has become unaffordable for so many.

Across the street from Saldana’s camper, for example, two-bedroom units in the apartment complex start at $3,840, including concierge service. That’s more than she brings home, even in a good month.
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The booming economy, fueled by the tech sector, and decades of under-building have led to an historic shortage of affordable housing. It has upended the stereotypical view of people out on the streets as unemployed: They are retail clerks, plumbers, janitors, even teachers, who go to work, sleep where they can and buy gym memberships for a place to shower.
It's definitely not all the fault of these companies, but again, they do have a role and will need to be part of the solution. It's a community problem and they are a huge part of the community. Although taxing companies to the point that they leave is not good, it's also not right for these companies to make a killing while not taking any responsibility for the negative effects, and it's not good for any of these areas if the only people who can live there are high paid tech workers, no teachers, janitors, etc etc.

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by PartyOf5 » Tue May 15, 2018 4:04 pm

Fife wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 1:25 pm
And many point to companies like Amazon for exacerbating the problem: The company is hiring thousands of people, and its high-paid employees drive up housing prices.
Read that sentence and think about it for a minute.
So to alleviate their "white guilt" they turn half their building into a shelter only to be told by their masters that isn't enough. They also have to pay a head tax.

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by Kath » Tue May 15, 2018 4:05 pm

Seattle is the problem. New construction is so ridiculously over-regulated that it can add months and tens of thousands to get a new house built.

Whatever you subsidize, you get more of. Giving the homeless everything they need only tells the rest of the homeless in this country, that all they need to do is get to Seattle and life will be easy street.

Seattle should get out of its' own way and let the market handle this. Seattle will be Detroit if they keep being overly hostile to business.
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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by ooky » Tue May 15, 2018 4:11 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 12:46 pm
DBTrek wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 12:00 pm
Seattle spent a billion unaccountable tax dollars on the homeless issue over ten years.
.

Doesn't make sense................. why would anyone do this. What's in it for them ?
What's in it for them is that homeless issues this large become a major, major problem for the cities, that costs them money. There are enforcement issues, there are issues where public spaces are no longer safe or accessible for citizens and they will complain, and as I've discussed, there are major environmental issues. Cities typically own the land surrounding creeks here. In some cases, Cities have been fined or ordered to do homeless camp clean up and restoration which is super expensive - and if it will just get destroyed again, is the epitome of wasted money.

I've honestly never seen anything like it, and I've lived in a lot of urban areas with some amount of homeless issues over the past 25 years.

A third of this entire public school system's students are homeless, the same district who serves people who work for Google, Apple, Facebook, Linked in, 23 and me, Genentech, and so on.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/0 ... on-valley/

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue May 15, 2018 4:15 pm

Your subconscious must be in overdrive to keep you from realizing these are the consequences of your own politics.