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Speaker to Animals
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by Speaker to Animals » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:35 am
Otern wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:
I am talking about the earlier article where they actually were harvesting baby organs without consent at that very hospital.
Oh, yeah. That's fucked up, without a doubt.
But I don't think this is what's happening now though. They'd be stupid to do it again, with the backlash they got last time. I think they honestly believe it's for that kid's best to die.
It might have been for the better if people didn't get to own their own dead bodies though. Hospitals lack a lot of organ donors, and thousands could be saved each year if bodies went to public use after death. We're all going into the ground and serve as fertilizer when we're dead anyway. Our use to the public once we're dead carries the same value as a couple days worth of cow shit. Well functioning organs literally rot in the ground, because of feelings.
But then again, I'm a hypocrite, as I'm not an organ donor, and don't plan to be one either. Maybe mine, and other's reluctance to be organ donors stems from the fear of doctors not doing their absolute best to keep us alive if an accident happens, and our death could mean plenty of others could live. Maybe if there's some system in place, where doctors could only see if you were an organ donor after death, people would be more prone to becoming organ donors. Or if everyone by default were organ donors, but they could opt out of donating organs. Or if organ donors themselves were being prioritized in receiving organs themselves.
Do you have socialized medicine in your country? Because we actually do have it in America. I am trapped in it. And I am telling you flat out that they ARE that stupid.
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by Otern » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:41 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Do you have socialized medicine in your country? Because we actually do have it in America. I am trapped in it. And I am telling you flat out that they ARE that stupid.
Yes we do. And it works pretty well here. Not perfect, and there's plenty of room for improvement. But it's one of the better systems in the world. As is the NHS in Britain. Actually, I think they're a bit better than us. Of course there will be horror stories from time to time, but overall, it's a good system.
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by Speaker to Animals » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:44 am
Otern wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:
Do you have socialized medicine in your country? Because we actually do have it in America. I am trapped in it. And I am telling you flat out that they ARE that stupid.
Yes we do. And it works pretty well here. Not perfect, and there's plenty of room for improvement. But it's one of the better systems in the world. As is the NHS in Britain. Actually, I think they're a bit better than us. Of course there will be horror stories from time to time, but overall, it's a good system.
The NHS is going bankrupt, and I am rather certain they are harvesting organs. It's Nazi as fuck, actually.
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by Montegriffo » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:45 am
And there you have it. Shouts of murder, calling doctors Nazis and fabricated theories about organ harvesting all while ignoring the medical evidence in order to push a Catholic pro life and right wing anti socialised medicine agenda.
None of which is in Alfie's interests.
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by Speaker to Animals » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:45 am
It's a modest proposal made real.
Monty, that hospital was ALREADY CAUGHT HARVESTING BABY ORGANS.
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by Otern » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:51 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:It's a modest proposal made real.
Monty, that hospital was ALREADY CAUGHT HARVESTING BABY ORGANS.
And that's why I'm on the fence on this whole ordeal. Generally I would trust the ethical judgement of doctors when they're letting someone die. But that case does not strengthen the hospital's position of authority when it comes to ethics.
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by Montegriffo » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:53 am
Yes, about 20 years ago. There was a huge inquiry and legal investigation and prosecution of the guilty parties.
There is no evidence that it has happened since.
Now how about you stop making up stories about miracle cures which no one is offering and stick to the facts of this case.
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by Fife » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:36 pm
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by Fife » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:37 pm