The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

[Smitty-48]

Sending US troops to the border to do anything but actually secure the border against migrants, which you'd think Americans would be aware is prohibited by Posse Comitatus; classic Washington dog n' pony show political stunt, most expensive dog n' pony shows the American taxpayer can buy, and both parties do it, nothing "Outsider" about that, Trump doing the same as his predecessors have done, exactly. Bush 2.0 /shrugs

[Speaker to Animals]

[Smitty-48]

Trump has actually deployed the troops under 32 U.S. Code § 502, which is; Required Drills and Field Exercises.

Literally a dog n' pony show, dictionary definition of, since that does not give the military the authority to conduct operations, it only authorizes them to train, so it's literally exercise and not real world, ergo, border enforcement bait n' switch political stunt.

Pretty simple, can't do law enforcement; Posse Comitatus, so what you do is order a big training exercise in the desert under the only available authority, call it "border security", and presto; dogs n' ponies for the (political) win, straight out of the Bushies playbook from 2006, also done by Obama to a lesser extent.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Like talking to a brick wall.

[Smitty-48]

Well, one would guess that large swathes of the low information public might be under the impression that the Guard is actually right on the border intercepting Mexicans or whatever, but they can't actually do that, because that's law enforcement, the most they can do is conduct some training exercises with other agencies, but it's not like the Guard are actually the subject matter experts, so what the Guard actually brings to the table in terms of training law enforcement how to do law enforcement is not clear. The law enforcement types can train the Guard, but due to Posse Comitatus and a 32 U.S. Code § 502 deployment, the Guard is actually prohibited from enforcing the law themselves.

Bear in mind, only the Governors can call the Guard out to assist law enforcement directly, in a declared state of emergency, but the whole point of Posse Comitatus; is that the federal government is not allowed to do that, hence the 32 U.S. Code § 502 deployment for exercise without conducting operations therein.

[Martin Hash]

Soldiers can probably watch screens and listen for alarms as part of their “drills.” They could also accompany real border guards as “training exercises.” Fear works. Guys in military garb, wearing sun glasses and holding machine guns is great theatrics. Lots of noise, bad smells, scary closeness; make the women cry and the men go Beta.

p.s. Works for evictions anyway.

[Smitty-48]

There's no screens nor anything like that, I know a couple guys who deployed for this the last time, 2006-2008, they basically just did their annual National Guard training in the Southwest, same thing they do every year, basic refresher, some range time, first aid, shit like that, that's what 32 U.S. Code § 502 is, the authorization for the Guard to conduct required "Drills and Field Exercises".

They said there was a border patrol theme to their training, and they did do some cross training with other agencies, but there is no actual operations involved, they can't do any actual law enforcement, that's against the law, so they don't do any actual border security while they're there, although they did do a fuckton of chickenshit make work, just to keep them busy for the duration of the dog n' pony show.

Said it was the most boring exercise ever, these guys had been to Iraq, sitting around in the desert doing joe jobs, they were not impressed. Just got back from Iraq, suddenly they get sent right back out into the sand, but with no enemy and no operations and in the middle of nowhere stuck in camp most of the time.

[Martin Hash]

I don’t think we’re talking National Guard. This will be Emergency Deployment to defend against the invading hordes. 50,000 kid refugees under Obama, who then used the “chain migration” law to bring their families in. The President has the ability to prevent that: Obama chose to accommodate it, Trump to prevent. This is a winning strategy.

[TheReal_ND]

Sending US troops to the border to do anything but actually secure the border against migrants, which you'd think Americans would be aware is prohibited by Posse Comitatus; classic Washington dog n' pony show political stunt, most expensive dog n' pony shows the American taxpayer can buy, and both parties do it, nothing "Outsider" about that, Trump doing the same as his predecessors have done, exactly. Bush 2.0 /shrugs

Posse comitatus applies to using troops against Americans. We can use them against migrants. The catch is that once they are detained they get habeas corpus and due to the fact they aren't from an adjoining country they can't be easily deported.

[Martin Hash]

Use the Army Engineers to establish an electronic perimeter, and enlisted techs to monitor. Train military drone techs, lots of them, 1000s. Start building The Wall as a military operation.