Tax Plan For Aristocracy

[StCapps]

Taxes rich people less and poor people more, but other than that, it's a pretty good plan.

I don't mind some of tax cuts for the rich though, some of that is much needed, just saying.

[K@th]

Taxes rich people less and poor people more, but other than that, it's a pretty good plan.

I don't mind some of tax cuts for the rich though, some of that is much needed, just saying.

You could take absolutely every single penny from the poor and it won't make up what the rich pay. Raising taxes on the poor is stupid, especially when you lower taxes for the rich.

Talk about a great talking point for the democrats in the mid-terms...... You can fit it on a bumper sticker.

[StCapps]

Raising taxes on the poor is stupid, especially when you lower taxes for the rich.

Talk about a great talking point for the democrats in the mid-terms...... You can fit it on a bumper sticker.

Yeah shouldn't tax the poor more, just cut taxes and raise the debt ceiling.


Unless Trump wants the Republicans to not do so well come the midterms.....

[Viktorthepirate]

I would say this could be a problem for the Republicans. If the Democrats smarten up and step away from the identity bullshit they have been peddling. And from some of the articles I've been reading, I think many of them are.

And what hash was saying is that you need to stifle Aristocracy if you want to stop it, inheritance tax is a method of doing so. If all the wealth is centered around a few families that is how it forms. And some could argue that is bad for both a society at large and the individuals inside of it.

One could also point at Victorian UK and say it is a good things as well... however seeing that most of us are considered common rabble or "elevated" common rabble, it's probably not in our best interest. Every once in awhile some entrepreneur will become an MP in HM's government, but it's meaningless in the grand scheme. Also isn't Britain pretty Socialist and going further... didn't hash say something about that?

Much like Monopolies are broken up for the common interest, aristocracies must be broken up as well for the common good. It is not always "fair" to the afflicted but they will certainly be ok. Even the ones who get fucked in the Walton dynasty will have children that lead lives you couls never imagine.

[Okeefenokee]

You’re either an aristocracy or you do something to prevent an aristocracy from forming.

Horseshit.

ar·is·toc·ra·cy
ˌerəˈstäkrəsē/Submit
noun
the highest class in certain societies, especially those holding hereditary titles or offices.

Does not exist in the US. Poor become rich. Rich become poor. Every damn day.

Only Inheritance taxes or revolution will do that.

More horseshit.

The only way to prevent something that never existed in America is to tax even more, or you're all gonna die.

You're the one spouting horseshit, an aristocracy doesn't exist in the US, that's some funny shit. There is no country on earth in which an aristocracy does not exist, America did not avoid aristocracy, that's a myth you like to tell yourselves, it has no basis in reality. An inheritance tax won't prevent an aristocracy from forming, they'll just find another tax loophole with their lawyers. Progressive taxation is fine, inheritance taxes are dumb, they will not prevent a revolution, nor will they prevent the formation of an aristocracy, nor will they eliminate the aristocracy. Hash just refuses to listen to reason on them, he thinks he can engineer society to have no aristocracy, all he needs is to tax the rich and have government spend their money, via higher inheritance taxes and viola, no more Aristocracy.

Silly Hash, naive utopian thinking, right thur. There is no tax that will end aristocracy, if that is the goal of your taxation plan, you'll fail every single time.

Aristocracy requires hereditary titles and class privileges for those in the aristocracy as a product of their birth.

America doesn't have that. Trying to stretch rich people with influence into a social system that died over a century ago, and never existed in America, is like saying America is communist because we have public roads.

[StCapps]

Horseshit.

ar·is·toc·ra·cy
ˌerəˈstäkrəsē/Submit
noun
the highest class in certain societies, especially those holding hereditary titles or offices.

Does not exist in the US. Poor become rich. Rich become poor. Every damn day.



More horseshit.

The only way to prevent something that never existed in America is to tax even more, or you're all gonna die.

You're the one spouting horseshit, an aristocracy doesn't exist in the US, that's some funny shit. There is no country on earth in which an aristocracy does not exist, America did not avoid aristocracy, that's a myth you like to tell yourselves, it has no basis in reality. An inheritance tax won't prevent an aristocracy from forming, they'll just find another tax loophole with their lawyers. Progressive taxation is fine, inheritance taxes are dumb, they will not prevent a revolution, nor will they prevent the formation of an aristocracy, nor will they eliminate the aristocracy. Hash just refuses to listen to reason on them, he thinks he can engineer society to have no aristocracy, all he needs is to tax the rich and have government spend their money, via higher inheritance taxes and viola, no more Aristocracy.

Silly Hash, naive utopian thinking, right thur. There is no tax that will end aristocracy, if that is the goal of your taxation plan, you'll fail every single time.

Aristocracy requires hereditary titles and class privileges for those in the aristocracy as a product of their birth.

America doesn't have that. Trying to stretch rich people with influence into a social system that died over a century ago, and never existed in America, is like saying America is communist because we have public roads.

"especially those holding hereditary titles or offices", last I checked "especially" didn't mean "only" or "requires". You cannot eliminate the highest class in society, even if everyone was equally poor and everyone was in the same class, there would still be a highest class, and that class would be the aristocracy.

America has always had an aristocracy, and it always will, no matter how many myths you believe.
/shrugs

[Martin Hash]

I'm glad you guys recognize my special place in society. I don't expect to see you here, except maybe to perform some menial task.

[StCapps]

I'm glad you guys recognize my special place in society.

Noblesse Oblige. Hence why the MHF became the new hangout after the DCF was vaporized, danke.

[Okeefenokee]

You’re dead. What do you care? $5 million is enough of a headstart.

So if someone wants to give more than $5 million to their children, they shouldn't be allowed to, Hash and the government will spend that money better than the people whose money it actually is. Just because you think $5 million is enough a headstart, does not mean everyone else thinks the same, their should be no cap on inheritance.

An aristocrat would have known that.

[Okeefenokee]

If we could learn the difference between wealth and income, many of the the arguments here would disappear. v:

It's interesting how the people with the most wealth earn the most money, eh?

People in the rest of the nation, on the other hand, earn an average of $45,567 a year. That means that, in 2013, "the top one percent of families earned 25.3 times as much income as the bottom 99 percent," the EPI reports.Jun 12, 2017

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/12/how-muc ... state.html

So what?

Someone else earning more than you doesn't harm you in any way. It's nothing more than base envy that makes you think some crime has been committed because someone has more than you.