CS 317 Shades of Grey

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Re: CS 317 Shades of Grey

Post by StCapps » Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:37 am

Hwen Hoshino wrote:
StCapps wrote:
ssu wrote:Now that I got to listen to it, Dan is Dan.

He's not actually changed his views.
Yes he did. Corruption isn't his biggest issue anymore, it's that we hate each other. That is a position change. He hates on the current administration for a lot sillier reasons than he hated on previous administrations as well, now he picks his battles really poorly, like a lot of Trump haters.

Wishful thinking is driving his analysis and he is reaching for MSM talking points to back up that train of thought, he never used pick his battles that poorly, but Trump has triggered him and he reaches way more often to trash this administration than previous ones. It's not trashing Trump that is Dan's problem, it's the way that he trashes on Trump that is the issue.
When did he say this is worse than before?
When "we hate each other" rose from some random side tangent he brought up in his shows on occasion, to the gordian knot that has to be undone before other major problems can be fixed. His priorities clearly changed in a major way, he used to think that way about corruption, now he thinks the corruption can't be fixed until "we stop hating each other". This clearly implies that he thinks it's gotten worse than it used to be, because he never used to view it as anywhere near the biggest problem, and then 2016 happened, and now all of a sudden hyperpartisanship is his new boogeyman.

Trump gets elected and America has a new biggest problem according to Dan, come on Hwen, use your head.
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Re: CS 317 Shades of Grey

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:26 am

Has nobody else noticed that Dan is using the British spelling of grey?
Why do you hate America Dan?
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Re: CS 317 Shades of Grey

Post by Hwen Hoshino » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:49 am

StCapps wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote:
StCapps wrote:Yes he did. Corruption isn't his biggest issue anymore, it's that we hate each other. That is a position change. He hates on the current administration for a lot sillier reasons than he hated on previous administrations as well, now he picks his battles really poorly, like a lot of Trump haters.

Wishful thinking is driving his analysis and he is reaching for MSM talking points to back up that train of thought, he never used pick his battles that poorly, but Trump has triggered him and he reaches way more often to trash this administration than previous ones. It's not trashing Trump that is Dan's problem, it's the way that he trashes on Trump that is the issue.
When did he say this is worse than before?
When "we hate each other" rose from some random side tangent he brought up in his shows on occasion, to the gordian knot that has to be undone before other major problems can be fixed. His priorities clearly changed in a major way, he used to think that way about corruption, now he thinks the corruption can't be fixed until "we stop hating each other". This clearly implies that he thinks it's gotten worse than it used to be, because he never used to view it as anywhere near the biggest problem, and then 2016 happened, and now all of a sudden hyperpartisanship is his new boogeyman.

Trump gets elected and America has a new biggest problem according to Dan, come on Hwen, use your head.
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Re: CS 317 Shades of Grey

Post by StCapps » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:08 am

Hwen Hoshino wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote: When did he say this is worse than before?
When "we hate each other" rose from some random side tangent he brought up in his shows on occasion, to the gordian knot that has to be undone before other major problems can be fixed. His priorities clearly changed in a major way, he used to think that way about corruption, now he thinks the corruption can't be fixed until "we stop hating each other". This clearly implies that he thinks it's gotten worse than it used to be, because he never used to view it as anywhere near the biggest problem, and then 2016 happened, and now all of a sudden hyperpartisanship is his new boogeyman.

Trump gets elected and America has a new biggest problem according to Dan, come on Hwen, use your head.
Which pod at ... mark.
In most of the recent podcasts since Trump has been elected he has mentioned that the biggest problem is "we hate each other", or something along the lines of the "hate index" is too damn high. He mentioned it in the latest one, CS 317, somewhere in the middle of the show, as well, he brings it up all the time these days. If this is the first time you are hearing of this, then you haven't been listening for the last year or so.
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Re: CS 317 Shades of Grey

Post by Zero » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:08 pm

I think I’m in the same boat as Dan in some ways. I feel like I’ve lost a step in the new landscape.

And I do think we’ve gotten demonstrably partisan to a dangerous extent. In a system built on compromise, when compromise is a sign of being weak, I don’t know how we move forward on anything substantive. If the only room people feel they have to maneuver is further to the extremes, then that leaves us in a pretty untenable place.
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Re: CS 317 Shades of Grey

Post by kybkh » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:31 pm

Zero wrote:I think I’m in the same boat as Dan in some ways. I feel like I’ve lost a step in the new landscape.

And I do think we’ve gotten demonstrably partisan to a dangerous extent. In a system built on compromise, when compromise is a sign of being weak, I don’t know how we move forward on anything substantive. If the only room people feel they have to maneuver is further to the extremes, then that leaves us in a pretty untenable place.
It’s not partisan, it’s cultural. Some folk don’t want to change the country’s central ethos of individual liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

It doesn’t take rocket science to look at demographics forecast and voting trends.

The Obama Coalition want what they are owed and they plan on taking it legally.

If voting by race continues in the brown and black communities of America the white communities have and will respond.
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Re: CS 317 Shades of Grey

Post by Zero » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:47 pm

kybkh wrote:
Zero wrote:I think I’m in the same boat as Dan in some ways. I feel like I’ve lost a step in the new landscape.

And I do think we’ve gotten demonstrably partisan to a dangerous extent. In a system built on compromise, when compromise is a sign of being weak, I don’t know how we move forward on anything substantive. If the only room people feel they have to maneuver is further to the extremes, then that leaves us in a pretty untenable place.
It’s not partisan, it’s cultural. Some folk don’t want to change the country’s central ethos of individual liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

It doesn’t take rocket science to look at demographics forecast and voting trends.

The Obama Coalition want what they are owed and they plan on taking it legally.

If voting by race continues in the brown and black communities of America the white communities have and will respond.
For clarity, can you define the Obama Coalition for me?
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Re: CS 317 Shades of Grey

Post by kybkh » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:02 pm

LGB, Brown and Black folks, Feminists, Government Class, and the ultra wealthy.
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Re: CS 317 Shades of Grey

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:08 pm

Nonwhites, degenerates, and liberal white women. That's the Obama faction. You have some beta males in there too, but I suspect it's just a mating strategy with them.

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Re: CS 317 Shades of Grey

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:12 pm

Tons of people that just didn't like Bush like myself. Not saying I voted for him in 08 cause I didn't but I would have if I cared about politics enough back then. I assumed he was going to be a nominal improvement at the time.

Then you have the normal white working class that thought it would go a long way to ease race relations.