War With Communists

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Re: War With Communists

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:36 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:As far as I know, Chomsky isn't a Communist, in the big C sense of the word.
Anarcho-syndicalist, but again, how do long do you think it is before a Stalin appears and have them all shot?

I mean, it's funny, like funny ha-ha, that Allende thought that Pinochet was actually on his side, Allende actually thought that Pinochet was comign to save la revolucion, LOL!

Plus, syndicalism is getting a bad name these days thanks to US Antifa. Put those idjits in charge, and I bet you get a Stalin damn pretty quick, and make no mistake.

Still, making temporary room for apparently mutually exclusive ideas in the same brain is a feature, not a bug, of human intellect.
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Re: War With Communists

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:40 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Plus, syndicalism is getting a bad name these days thanks to US Antifa. Put those idjits in charge, and I bet you get a Stalin damn pretty quick, and make no mistake.
On the bright side, they'd be the first ones he'd have shot, I mean, that's what I love about Stalin, he mostly killed Bolshies.
Still, making temporary room for apparently mutually exclusive ideas in the same brain is a feature, not a bug, of human intellect.
The Duality of Smitty; it's a Jungian thing, I'm even prepared to consider Stalinism, so long as I am General Secretary.
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Re: War With Communists

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:50 pm

No thank you. Being General Secretary seems like an ass-load of thankless work, and every one is gunning for you.

I doubt I can take the frequent three day weekends, to which I am accustomed, if I have to be constantly wary of my own inner party's knives.
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Re: War With Communists

Post by StCapps » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:52 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:No thank you. Being General Secretary seems like an ass-load of thankless work, and every one is gunning for you.

I doubt I can take the frequent three day weekends, to which I am accustomed, if I have to be constantly wary of my own inner party's knives.
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Re: War With Communists

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:54 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:No thank you. Being General Secretary seems like an ass-load of thankless work, and every one is gunning for you.

I doubt I can take the frequent three day weekends, to which I am accustomed, if I have to be constantly wary of my own inner party's knives.
Please, first you wipe out the left, then you wipe out the right, and you can do it from the comfort of your dacha, or in your home movie theater Netflix and chill, Stalin signed execution lists, 1000 people at a time, while he was watching Hollywood movies, Charlie Chaplin was his favourite.
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Re: War With Communists

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:57 pm

Do svidaniya assholes... oooh, new seasons of The New Girl are up. I like how she is, how do you say, fish out of water!

Okay, I can see it...
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Re: War With Communists

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:01 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Do svidaniya assholes... oooh, new seasons of The New Girl are up. I like how she is, how do you say, fish out of water!

Okay, I can see it...
Trust me, Stalin had a whole lotta fun being Stalin, sure, everybody was gunning for him, but as he said on 12 November 1927; "I will strike first".
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Re: War With Communists

Post by de officiis » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:34 pm

When I was in middle school, I checked out a book about Cuba from the local public library. It painted a very rosy picture of the conditions there and cast communism in a favorable light. When I went and talked to my dad about what a great concept it was, he got really pissed and told me in no uncertain terms that communism basically sucked and that I was to put any ideas to the contrary out of my mind. Funny how a lot of emotion can make you remember these things.
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Re: War With Communists

Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:45 pm

My dad just told me it looks good on paper but doesn't work in the real world. I'm assuming he meant the economic aspects of it. I hope he didn't mean any of the societal aspects of it :?

Nah he's not stupid.

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Re: War With Communists

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:56 pm

de officiis wrote:When I was in middle school, I checked out a book about Cuba from the local public library. It painted a very rosy picture of the conditions there and cast communism in a favorable light. When I went and talked to my dad about what a great concept it was, he got really pissed and told me in no uncertain terms that communism basically sucked and that I was to put any ideas to the contrary out of my mind. Funny how a lot of emotion can make you remember these things.
There is no Communism at this juncture tho, again, when you're a Communist, what you're saying is that you aspire towards Communism "someday", Communism is the end state of the World Socialist Revolution, there's no Commuism until you achieve the One World Government and associated centrally planned post scarcity Utopia.

In the meantime, there is only Socialism, Socialism is the transitional state; while you are on the road to Communism, so technically, Cuba has not achieved Communism, only Socialism, as no one state could achieve Communsim on its own, you only get to Communism when the Westphalian state itself has been replaced; by a unitary World Socialist state.

When you have effected the World Socialist Revolution and in the wake achieved One World Government and nothing exists outside of that regime, only then; is Communism at hand.

Thus, a Communist would argue that Communism wouldn't "suck", it would be utopian, however, in the meantime, the best they can do is Socialism, and only reason it "sucks" is that it is at war for survival, the Imperialists are the ones who are making things "suck", by preventing the Socialists from achieving the goals on the way to Communism, and if weren't for the Imperialists sabotaging things deliberately, it would not actually "suck" on the way, as then Socialism could get things done without having to enact wartime measures against Imperialist repression, embargro, terrorism, sabotage, etcetera.

So the regime in Havana, they blame the embargo and associated isolation, they say "look, it's not ideal, this is not how it should be, but the Yanqui Imperialists are trying to break us, they're trying to kill the revolution, so we have to tighten our belts and hunker down, because this is a war being waged against us, and if you give in, things will be much worse, the Yanquis will just turn Cuba back into a Third World sweatshop for their corporations, and then you'll really have something to cry about, living in a garbage dump being repressed by Imperialist puppets; no education, no healthcare, no social assistance whatsoever, no national security, and no sovereignty, you'll be living like the poor do in places like Haiti, in abject poverty and utter squalor, so, careful what you wish for..."
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