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Hanarchy Montanarchy
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:19 pm
StCapps wrote:Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:May god protect you from ever having it determined by the state that you are a "low priority" to the country you live in because of something your parents did, so your fate can be used as a "bargaining chip" in enforcing laws on someone else.
Citizenship protects me from that fate, and if these folks were citizens, then so would they. Not my fault they didn't come in legally.
/shrug
Talk to Nuke about the logic of birthright citizenship.
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by StCapps » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:21 pm
Birthright citizenship is dumb, it made sense at the time, in order to make former slaves US citizens, but it's long since outlived it's use.
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:26 pm
StCapps wrote:Birthright citizenship is dumb, it made sense at the time, in order to make former slaves US citizens, but it's long since outlived it's use.
Unless you were born in Mexico, then you are a Mexican citizen regardless of the fact that you have spent almost none of your life there.
Apparently Mexico has magical soil that America lacks.
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by StCapps » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:28 pm
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:StCapps wrote:Birthright citizenship is dumb, it made sense at the time, in order to make former slaves US citizens, but it's long since outlived it's use.
Unless you were born in Mexico, then you are a Mexican citizen regardless of the fact that you have spent almost none of your life there.
Apparently Mexico has magical soil that America lacks.
Mexico isn't exactly a shining example worthy of emulation.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:35 pm
Yes, it is absurd.
Point is, the laws currently protect you. But laws change, and once we have crossed the Rubicon of legally inherited guilt, we might not like where we wind up.
On the plus side, the pro reparations crowd will be glad to find they have so many allies over here at Valhalla Sector. Shining beacon of the woke that is has become.
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by Speaker to Animals » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:42 pm
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
On the plus side, the pro reparations crowd will be glad to find they have so many allies over here at Valhalla Sector. Shining beacon of the woke that is has become.
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:43 pm
You misunderstand.
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by Penner » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:37 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Xenophon wrote:
Yes. The alternative is to have the state take on the cost of raising the children, or amnesty.
Those are
some alternatives. Not the most creative ones.
Either way, I hope none of you wind up committing a crime that the state decides it will be expedient to punish your children for.
But they are not being punished. They are being removed from the nation in which they illegally reside and sent back home.
But that IS punishment right there.
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by Speaker to Animals » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:38 pm
Penner wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Those are some alternatives. Not the most creative ones.
Either way, I hope none of you wind up committing a crime that the state decides it will be expedient to punish your children for.
But they are not being punished. They are being removed from the nation in which they illegally reside and sent back home.
But that IS punishment right there.
Repatriating people to their own countries is not "punishment", Penner.
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by Penner » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:48 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:Penner wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:
But they are not being punished. They are being removed from the nation in which they illegally reside and sent back home.
But that IS punishment right there.
Repatriating people to their own countries is not "punishment", Penner.
If they were brought he at an age, like 5 or 6, and never even step foot in "their" old country ever again, then yeah, it is a punishment.