identity politics are destroying the democratic party

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:25 am

They are not women and children. Stop repeating horseshit.
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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:32 am

GloryofGreece wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GloryofGreece wrote:
All those fighting aged men coming into fuck native women. No not really. Looks like theres a good amount of women and kids to. So I don't see your argument as valid or relevant really at all. Native women aren't going to increase their ability to fuck more men in this scenario.
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What the hell? One of my suspicions about betas was just confirmed.
Elaborate and keep the insults coming. :shifty:

I don't even know what you are were trying to convey. It's like you were replying to another thread and not to the post to which you actually replied. But it kind of seems like all you care about is laying into women, and all this "I have to save women from those evil non-beta males" act is just a laughably transparent ruse.

Do you literally judge truth from falsehood based on your ability to convince women to sleep with you? Fucking cray cray, man. It shouldn't have to be elaborated upon.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by GloryofGreece » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:39 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GloryofGreece wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
What the hell? One of my suspicions about betas was just confirmed.
Elaborate and keep the insults coming. :shifty:

I don't even know what you are were trying to convey. It's like you were replying to another thread and not to the post to which you actually replied. But it kind of seems like all you care about is laying into women, and all this "I have to save women from those evil non-beta males" act is just a laughably transparent ruse.

Do you literally judge truth from falsehood based on your ability to convince women to sleep with you? Fucking cray cray, man. It shouldn't have to be elaborated upon.
Your posts in this thread are every bit as all over the place. I don't think its all about biology, nor that your biological convictions are even completely accurate. I don't think women nor men are as deterministic as you claim they are.
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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:41 am

GloryofGreece wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GloryofGreece wrote: Elaborate and keep the insults coming. :shifty:

I don't even know what you are were trying to convey. It's like you were replying to another thread and not to the post to which you actually replied. But it kind of seems like all you care about is laying into women, and all this "I have to save women from those evil non-beta males" act is just a laughably transparent ruse.

Do you literally judge truth from falsehood based on your ability to convince women to sleep with you? Fucking cray cray, man. It shouldn't have to be elaborated upon.
Your posts in this thread are every bit as all over the place. I don't think its all about biology, nor that your biological convictions are even completely accurate. I don't think women nor men are as deterministic as you claim they are.

No, they are not. I think you replied to the wrong thread now.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by katarn » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:18 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GloryofGreece wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

I don't even know what you are were trying to convey. It's like you were replying to another thread and not to the post to which you actually replied. But it kind of seems like all you care about is laying into women, and all this "I have to save women from those evil non-beta males" act is just a laughably transparent ruse.

Do you literally judge truth from falsehood based on your ability to convince women to sleep with you? Fucking cray cray, man. It shouldn't have to be elaborated upon.
Your posts in this thread are every bit as all over the place. I don't think its all about biology, nor that your biological convictions are even completely accurate. I don't think women nor men are as deterministic as you claim they are.

No, they are not. I think you replied to the wrong thread now.
I don't see that. Your posts haven't been all over the place, but you've gone on a bit here again about your theories that we're all familiar with by now. I must ask, how did you develop them, what did you use to make them? Personal experience, or are there studies I should look into?
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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:06 pm

katarn wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GloryofGreece wrote: Your posts in this thread are every bit as all over the place. I don't think its all about biology, nor that your biological convictions are even completely accurate. I don't think women nor men are as deterministic as you claim they are.

No, they are not. I think you replied to the wrong thread now.
I don't see that. Your posts haven't been all over the place, but you've gone on a bit here again about your theories that we're all familiar with by now. I must ask, how did you develop them, what did you use to make them? Personal experience, or are there studies I should look into?

Mainly from evolutionary psychology. Check out books like The Moral Animal and Before the Dawn, for example.

The way I see it, for most of human history, and for the countless aeons of the paleolithic, males were disposable lives and women held intrinsic worth as long as they were fertile. Evolution produced a species that wanted to protect women no matter what because in so doing you protected the group's ability to continue to exist.

But that paradigm ended with technological civilization. Now it's actually men who have intrinsic value while fertility is a surplus commodity. But our biology remains and women are collectively capitalizing upon the biology to gain more and more unjust privileges.

That's not to say I think we should eventually do to women what they have been doing to men. I am just saying that I think, deep down, women realize that their intrinsic value is now pretty well shot in a technological society, and most of this bitching and moaning from feminists derives from their subconscious anger at this new state of affairs. Men are the primary innovators in a technological society. Men are the ones who keep the oil flowing, the power running, the buildings standing, and so on. This is why feminist women are so insane about trying to get more women into STEM fields and other prominent positions. It's not just their lust for power over men that drives them, but a need to prove that they too have some intrinsic value to a technological society in the same way that they had for all of human history before technological societies emerged.

It's truly ironic that the women who most wail about this reversal in their feminist literature most epitomize it.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:12 pm

And before people lose their shit.. it's not that I think women are incapable. I think this is mostly a self-inflicted state of affairs. Women are perfectly capable of doing hard work and getting stronger. Most do not because they want to "look pretty", which is another way of saying they want to affirm their privileged status by rendering themselves unsuitable for hard work.

It wasn't even that long ago that women were expected to do hard labor unless they were members of the aristocracy. Now most women above the working class want to be treated as if they are aristocracy. It's really quite frustrating.

Then there is the issue of innovation. I don't believe women are incapable of innovating to the same degree as men. They just don't like STEM. I don't think that Google beta was correct in his assumption that it's merely biological either. I worked with plenty of female engineers from China, and princesses, unlike you, those ladies can innovate and they love the work.

And the reason this relates to the OP: if women don't want people breaking them down analytically and figuring out why they have behaved this way, then they shouldn't have engaged in identity politics in the first place. By keeping men out of the business of identity politics, men were able to maintain certain illusions that are no longer possible to maintain -- precisely because of the identity politics waged by women among other racial groups. Figuring things out is what men like to do. Women kept screaming that there is a problem when clearly western women don't have real problems relative to the rest of the world (or western men for that matter), so men started to try to figure out what is *actually* wrong.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by nmoore63 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:58 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote: Now it's actually men who have intrinsic value....
women realize that their intrinsic value is now pretty well shot
I sincerely hope you get the help you need.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:01 pm

Not an argument. Have a great night.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:43 pm

As part of the pedantry patrol, I feel I should point out that 'value to society' and 'intrinsic value' are not exactly the same thing.
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