Haven't been around for a while...

[StCapps]

Nah - I don't hate. It's just sad. I have numerous conservative friends who voted for Trump. None of them have brown lips, though, like some around here. My MIL voted Trump and has voted R-team her whole life. She's having buyer's remorse, because she can see how awful this man is. She doesn't wish Hillary were there instead. I agree with her.

You just seem to assume that because some folks who voted for Trump are having buyers remorse and you happen to agree with their reasoning, that somehow any rational person who supported him should feel the same way. That's a silly assumption.

[PartyOf5]

Hey Ooky - Just FYI - I rarely post here, now. Most here have gotten so used to the taste of Trump's butt juice that they don't know that it tastes lousy. Perhaps one day they will get their mouth out of his ass, but until then, it's nonsense spew from the fringe right.

I'm over here hoping that some day we can get someone reasonable to run the country - the extremes on both sides are killing us. The 40% or so of us in the middle are horrified, and have been for years.

That statement sounds a lot like Hillary's "basket of deplorables" comment. When you come out insulting a good portion of this forum...what do you expect in return? To many here, Trump is reasonable. He's not a far-right guy, yet his detractors want to paint him as such. If you want to add some substance to the forum why don't you make the case for why he's unreasonable? What has he done as POTUS that has been unreasonable?

I welcome discussion here, both Trump related and not. Instead of just coming in and complaining about "most" or "some" here, contribute something without being insulting to the general population here.

[StCapps]

That statement sounds a lot like Hillary's "basket of deplorables" comment. When you come out insulting a good portion of this forum...what do you expect in return? To many here, Trump is reasonable. He's not a far-right guy, yet his detractors want to paint him as such. If you want to add some substance to the forum why don't you make the case for why he's unreasonable? What has he done as POTUS that has been unreasonable?

I welcome discussion here, both Trump related and not. Instead of just coming in and complaining about "most" or "some" here, contribute something without being insulting to the general population here.

That would require having an in depth discussion that Kath knows she'll lose, so she lashes out and assumes the reason people don't like her arguments is that because this is a pro-Trump echo chamber that will except no criticism of the man, it can't have anything to do with her choosing her anti-Trump arguments poorly and people feeling the need to point that out. She likes to point fingers but hates looking in the mirror, she wants a scapegoat but doesn't realize she is a contributor to forum's lack of decorum as much as any of those who she is pointing her fingers at as the culprits pushing this trend.

[K@th]

Ahem -

When the forum's most prevalent Trump supporters are thrilled that finally, at last, someone reasonable is going to fix it so that white, hetero, Christian males can stop being so marginalized and have a voice in this country again....

I just SMH.

Buh bye. I'm sorry you are all feeling so oppressed... Once we get all those xenophobic policies in place and have pissed off every country except Russia, I'm sure we'll be all MAGA.

[Montegriffo]

Hey Ooky - Just FYI - I rarely post here, now. Most here have gotten so used to the taste of Trump's butt juice that they don't know that it tastes lousy. Perhaps one day they will get their mouth out of his ass, but until then, it's nonsense spew from the fringe right.

I'm over here hoping that some day we can get someone reasonable to run the country - the extremes on both sides are killing us. The 40% or so of us in the middle are horrified, and have been for years.

Yep, I've pretty much given up too. The Europe is falling to Islam narrative is unchallengeable around here.

[StCapps]

Hey Ooky - Just FYI - I rarely post here, now. Most here have gotten so used to the taste of Trump's butt juice that they don't know that it tastes lousy. Perhaps one day they will get their mouth out of his ass, but until then, it's nonsense spew from the fringe right.

I'm over here hoping that some day we can get someone reasonable to run the country - the extremes on both sides are killing us. The 40% or so of us in the middle are horrified, and have been for years.

Yep, I've pretty much given up too. The Europe is falling to Islam narrative is unchallengeable around here.

Back in the day Kath and ooky used to actually debate specific points of contention they had with Trump, but when enough of the forum didn't agree with enough of their interpretations of events they eventually got sick of participating in an argument they were losing, so they needed to come up with an excuse that has nothing to do with their own inadequacies, so they don't have to feel any guilt themselves. They choose to lump anyone who disagrees with them into to category of Trump fan boys so they can dismiss our arguments out of hand. They've gotten hella lazy and have retreated to their own echo chambers, and their post quality fell off precipitously afterward.

@monte
Dude the Muslims taking over Europe narrative is easily challengable around these parts, you are just butt hurt that the other side of the argument who see an issue with European immigration makes good points occasionally. You don't like being challenged, they are willing to have their views challenged, you just get butthurt and then take your ball and go home when they force you to bring your best arguments to rebut them. Stand your ground and fight, quit being a pussy because you don't feel you have enough back up in an debate on an internet forum. Y'all aren't mad this a pro-Trump echo chamber, you seem to be mad that it isn't an anti-Trump echo chamber.

/shrugs

[kybkh]

The problem with the country right now is the Democratic Party is beholden to California.

Imagine a nation of 50 states whose national discourse is determined by one state that is non-representative of the other 49.

What would the DP be without Cali?

If CA were to secede the remaining population of the US would be much more homogeneous in its culture.

[Martin Hash]

Y'all aren't mad this a pro-Trump echo chamber, you seem to be mad that it isn't an anti-Trump echo chamber.

That's a great insight. There's no room in the anti-Trump narrative for disagreement.

[K@th]

Y'all aren't mad this a pro-Trump echo chamber, you seem to be mad that it isn't an anti-Trump echo chamber.

That's a great insight. There's no room in the anti-Trump narrative for disagreement.

Utter bullshit.

I've acknowledged when Trump has done/said something I've agreed with and made very clear points on disagreements. You all act as if every drop of brown liquid pouring out of his mouth is pure genius.

Sickening, really. You sound EXACTLY like the Hillary-can-do-no-wrong support team; you're just a mirror version of those crazies.

[Martin Hash]

For the Record:
Because I'm a Nationalist, that doesn't make me xenophobic. (Hell, I'm probably the most travelled person in my whole State.)
Because I'm anti-Marxist, that doesn't make me Conservative.
I like the idea of a "Trump" (political outsider); I'm still watching to see what happens. (Trump hasn't done anything yet.)
This is a nation of Identity Politics and I'm an OWG, so what?