Intelligence officials didn't want to grant Kushner top-secret security clearance, but Trump overruled them.

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Re: Intelligence officials didn't want to grant Kushner top-secret security clearance, but Trump overruled them.

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:51 pm

Kath wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:44 pm
nmoore63 wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:34 pm
The intelligence community complete corruption.

We allow ex-politicians to retain their clearance so they can get top consulting jobs and tv time.

It has more to do with $$$ than it does with actual security.
I didn't know this. I thought it was only ex-presidents who were given the option to get continued security briefings. ( I don't really have an issue with this.)

Ugh... Our security theater is such a joke. A giant corrupt joke.
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Re: Intelligence officials didn't want to grant Kushner top-secret security clearence, but Trump overruled them.

Post by atanamis » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:57 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:30 am
Fife wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:22 am
It's not a zero-sum game.
Both the intelligence state and Jared are bad news.
It's pretty clear our Intelligence Community is Extremely flexible when it comes to security clearance risks; Major Hassan, Awan Brothers, Hillary's Emails to name a few. My guess it Trump entrusted Lil Kush in a position of responsibility over some of these IC fucks and now its a pissin match.
As an FYI, security clearances are not implemented by law passed by Congress, but are the result of nothing more than an executive order:
https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2016/11/c ... sidential/

If he want to, Trump can end the existence of security clearances with the stroke of a pen, just as he has threatened to do for DACA (also "only" an executive order). There is no overarching law that prevents him from granting clearances to anyone he wants to grant them to.
Kath wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:44 pm
nmoore63 wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:34 pm
The intelligence community complete corruption.

We allow ex-politicians to retain their clearance so they can get top consulting jobs and tv time.

It has more to do with $$$ than it does with actual security.
I didn't know this. I thought it was only ex-presidents who were given the option to get continued security briefings. ( I don't really have an issue with this.)

Ugh... Our security theater is such a joke. A giant corrupt joke.
I don't know that it is entirely accurate that clearances are "kept", so much as it is generally very easy to get a clearance again if you have had one recently. Clearances are all about "need to know" anyway, so even if you "have" a clearance you shouldn't retain access to anything you don't have need to know. Of course, as C-Mag pointed out there are plenty of people willing to ignore the rules regardless.

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Re: Intelligence officials didn't want to grant Kushner top-secret security clearance, but Trump overruled them.

Post by Fife » Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:02 pm

Yes, disruption is close at hand, and would be immediate.

IMNSHO, there's not very much disruptive about Trump-Nation.

Is there anything even interesting about it?

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Re: Intelligence officials didn't want to grant Kushner top-secret security clearence, but Trump overruled them.

Post by Kath » Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:08 pm

atanamis wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:57 pm
I don't know that it is entirely accurate that clearances are "kept", so much as it is generally very easy to get a clearance again if you have had one recently. Clearances are all about "need to know" anyway, so even if you "have" a clearance you shouldn't retain access to anything you don't have need to know. Of course, as C-Mag pointed out there are plenty of people willing to ignore the rules regardless.
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I'm not shocked there are people willing to ignore the rules. This is true, everywhere. At work, I can't get anything done without submitting a ticket, unless I can find and make nice with the person who can get it done without a ticket. Most of life is this way.

It's really disappointing that people are willing to put our country at risk, though. Chance of getting prosecuted for treason is pretty low. When there are no consequences for bad behavior, this is what we get.
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Re: Intelligence officials didn't want to grant Kushner top-secret security clearance, but Trump overruled them.

Post by TheReal_ND » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:11 pm

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Re: Intelligence officials didn't want to grant Kushner top-secret security clearance, but Trump overruled them.

Post by nmoore63 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:13 pm

Kath wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:44 pm
nmoore63 wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:34 pm
The intelligence community complete corruption.

We allow ex-politicians to retain their clearance so they can get top consulting jobs and tv time.

It has more to do with $$$ than it does with actual security.
I didn't know this. I thought it was only ex-presidents who were given the option to get continued security briefings. ( I don't really have an issue with this.)

Ugh... Our security theater is such a joke. A giant corrupt joke.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ce/579772/
On August 15, 2018, Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders stepped into the White House briefing room to read a remarkable statement: The president had decided to strip former CIA Director John Brennan of his security clearance. Sanders named other former officials who might soon suffer the same penalty, including former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former FBI Director James Comey, former CIA Director Michael Hayden, former Acting Attorney General Sally Yates, former National-Security Adviser Susan Rice, former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, and the former FBI agents Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr.
Former senior officials retain their clearance not as a perk, but as a service to the country: so they are available to provide insight and advice to their successors.
Complete horsehit.
https://www.thewrap.com/ex-cia-chief-jo ... ntributor/

No one who's fucking day job is working at NBC should have blank security clearance.

But you can see how he could make a wonderful partisan on tv with that kind of inside data.

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Re: Intelligence officials didn't want to grant Kushner top-secret security clearance, but Trump overruled them.

Post by C-Mag » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:22 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:13 pm
Complete horsehit.
https://www.thewrap.com/ex-cia-chief-jo ... ntributor/

No one who's fucking day job is working at NBC should have blank security clearance.

But you can see how he could make a wonderful partisan on tv with that kind of inside data.
Agreed.
Fact is probably half the people in the US with security clearance should not have them
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