Video shows off-duty officer pulling gun on man mistakenly suspected of stealing Mentos

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Re: Video shows off-duty officer pulling gun on man mistakenly suspected of stealing Mentos

Post by nmoore63 » Sun May 06, 2018 8:20 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
nmoore63 wrote:I don’t see a complaint worth anything in the video

Dude drew down on him.


If you were standing there, saw somebody you thought was stealing mentos, and you drew down on the guy, what do you think the cops would do to you?.
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“Cop pulls gun on suspected thief”

As I said, a lot big problems with police than that.

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Re: Video shows off-duty officer pulling gun on man mistakenly suspected of stealing Mentos

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun May 06, 2018 8:21 pm

Cops do not have special rights.

If you brandish a weapon like that, you should get charged.

And just saying "I'm a police officer" is total bullshit. Anybody can say that and then rob you. A man in plain clothes draws a gun on you, do you not have a self-defense right there?

There actually are several levels of fucked going on with this that have nothing to do with gun control. It's about cops and their attitude that they somehow have these special rights to fuck with people.

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Re: Video shows off-duty officer pulling gun on man mistakenly suspected of stealing Mentos

Post by nmoore63 » Sun May 06, 2018 8:24 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Cops do not have special rights.

If you brandish a weapon like that, you should get charged.

And just saying "I'm a police officer" is total bullshit. Anybody can say that and then rob you. A man in plain clothes draws a gun on you, do you not have a self-defense right there?

There actually are several levels of fucked going on with this that have nothing to do with gun control. It's about cops and their attitude that they somehow have these special rights to fuck with people.
I support the right to carry arms for all citizens

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Re: Video shows off-duty officer pulling gun on man mistakenly suspected of stealing Mentos

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun May 06, 2018 8:31 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Cops do not have special rights.

If you brandish a weapon like that, you should get charged.

And just saying "I'm a police officer" is total bullshit. Anybody can say that and then rob you. A man in plain clothes draws a gun on you, do you not have a self-defense right there?

There actually are several levels of fucked going on with this that have nothing to do with gun control. It's about cops and their attitude that they somehow have these special rights to fuck with people.
I support the right to carry arms for all citizens

And what happens when one of those citizens draws down on you for no valid reason, threatening your life?? Should it fucking matter whether they are a cop or not?

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Re: Video shows off-duty officer pulling gun on man mistakenly suspected of stealing Mentos

Post by JohnDonne » Sun May 06, 2018 8:57 pm

I'd be sympathetic if the cop mistakenly believed a robbery was happening.

Trouble is, the cop's behavior doesn't even fit the (wrong) assumptions he made. Instead of pulling out a gun, he should have pulled out his badge and asked some questions.

Not sure this is a training issue as much as: This is the type of person drawn to police work. If you don't want people that think they're in a hard-boiled cop movie, screen these people out.

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Re: Video shows off-duty officer pulling gun on man mistakenly suspected of stealing Mentos

Post by Ph64 » Sun May 06, 2018 9:10 pm

The cop tells the guy "leave the candy" and then "take your change and go"... wtf did he think the cashier was giving the guy change for??

The guy is standing at the counter, no weapon, getting change from the cashier and puts a roll of candy that was on the counter in front of the cashier in his pocket. The cashier didn't stop or question him. IMHO the cop had no reason to even suspect any wrongdoing, and it was definitely wrong for him to draw his weapon.

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Re: Video shows off-duty officer pulling gun on man mistakenly suspected of stealing Mentos

Post by BjornP » Mon May 07, 2018 1:15 am



Cop should just have bought the Mentos after, then walked past the imam-bearded Latino guy and flashed the Mentos smile and held the roll of Mentos like a thumbs-up. Imam-beard-Latino guy would have smiled at his disarmingly charming ways, and everything would be alright... 8-)
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Re: Video shows off-duty officer pulling gun on man mistakenly suspected of stealing Mentos

Post by Montegriffo » Mon May 07, 2018 1:42 am

Just another example of why Americans hate/fear their police. Do they have any training at all?
This would cost the cop his job in the UK.
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Re: Video shows off-duty officer pulling gun on man mistakenly suspected of stealing Mentos

Post by Otern » Mon May 07, 2018 3:29 am

It does look like he's stealing it. But pulling a gun on someone for that? Even if you're a police officer, that's going way too far.

He could've just asked; "did you pay for that?", without pulling the gun and the results would be better. The cop made a situation that looked like petty theft worse, by making it look like armed robbery, since he was in plainclothes.

Imagine a second off duty cop with the same attitudes towards pulling his gun and jumping to conclusions walked in and saw one man pointing a gun in the direction of the customer and the clerk.

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Re: Video shows off-duty officer pulling gun on man mistakenly suspected of stealing Mentos

Post by Montegriffo » Mon May 07, 2018 3:45 am

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