Child killing poll

[Hastur]

Roy Andersson predicted the future of NHS.

[BjornP]

Do we even still have any UK members besides Monte? Did jonsparta cross over to the MHF?

Nope. This board is around 95% white American.
You could even call it an ethno-state, if you were a 12 year old Asian dude.

O-oooh, now you're just gonna be called a racist as well as a child-murder supporting, fascistic, statist, eugenicist who also hates free speech.
Though I guess this can be sort of a lesson in being tolerated to be free to say "grossly offensive" things. Always an opportunity to learn something new, eh?

[Speaker to Animals]

So sad to see him like this. You'd think the UK government would do the humane thing and just gas him already.

[Montegriffo]

Do we even still have any UK members besides Monte? Did jonsparta cross over to the MHF?

Nope. This board is around 95% white American.
You could even call it an ethno-state, if you were a 12 year old Asian dude.

O-oooh, now you're just gonna be called a racist as well as a child-murder supporting, fascistic, statist, eugenicist who also hates free speech.
Though I guess this can be sort of a lesson in being tolerated to be free to say "grossly offensive" things. Always an opportunity to learn something new, eh?

I challenge ''grossly offensive''. Mildly caustic at worst.

[Speaker to Animals]

We can't expect individuals to decide what is grossly offensive or mildly caustic. That prerogative is left to the state.

[Ex-California]

Obviously it should be up to the parents

[PartyOf5]

My only caveat: does the toddler have to be brain damaged?

I'm with Hanah on this one. Bring the death panel to the MHF.

Were doing it with Cricket Bats !

Well that's just going to take forever. Crickets are really small, so their bats must be even smaller.

[Fife]

I'm with Hanah on this one. Bring the death panel to the MHF.

Were doing it with Cricket Bats !

Well that's just going to take forever. Crickets are really small, so their bats must be even smaller.

Of course, you could just treat crickets and flies like the state treats undesirable humans, and kidnap them and starve them. But shit, man, that sounds expensive!

[Viktorthepirate]

Answered the poll for Monte.

[de officiis]

Neurol Med Chir (Tokyo). 2017 Feb 15;57(2):101-105.

Life and Medical Ethics in Pediatric Neurosurgery.

Yamasaki M1.

Abstract

Ethical issues in the field of pediatric neurosurgery, including prenatal diagnosis, palliative care for children with an intractable serious disease, and medical neglect, are discussed. An important role of medicine is to offer every possible treatment to a patient. However, it also is the responsibility of medicine to be conscious of its limitations, and to help parents love and respect a child who suffers from an incurable disease. When dealing with cases of medical neglect and palliative care for an incurable disease, it is critical to diagnose the child's condition accurately and evaluate the outcome. However, to treat or not to treat also depends on the medical resources and social-economic status of the community, the parents' religion and philosophy, the policies of the institutions involved, and the limits of medical science. Moral dilemmas will continue to be addressed as medical progress yields treatments for untreatable diseases in the future.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5341346/

Pediatrics. 2016 Nov;138(5).
Parental Refusal of Surgery in an Infant With Tricuspid Atresia.

Kon AA1, Patel A2, Leuthner S3, Lantos JD4.

Abstract

We present a case of a fetal diagnosis of tricuspid atresia (TA). The pregnant woman and her husband requested that the baby be treated with only palliative care. The cardiologist did not think it would be appropriate to withhold life-prolonging surgery once the infant was born. The neonatologist argued that outcomes for TA are similar to those for hypoplastic left heart syndrome, and the standard practice at the institution was to allow parents to choose surgery or end-of-life care for those infants. The team requested an ethics consultation to assist in determining whether forgoing life-prolonging interventions in this case would be ethically supportable. In this article, we ask a pediatric intensivist, a pediatric cardiologist, and a neonatologist to discuss the ethics of withholding life-sustaining treatment of a baby with TA.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/c ... 61730.long

Pediatrics. 2016 Jul;138(1).

Can Parents Refuse a Potentially Lifesaving Transplant for Severe Combined Immunodeficiency?

Nickels AS1, Myers GD2, Johnson LM3, Joshi A4, Sharp RR5, Lantos JD2.

Abstract

If untreated, most children with severe combined immunodeficiency disorder (SCID) will die of complications of infection within the first 2 years of life. Early hematopoietic stem cell transplant (HSCT) is the current standard of care for this disease. Although potentially lifesaving, prognosis of HSCT in SCID is variable depending on a number of host and donor factors. Of the survivors, many develop secondary problems such as chronic graft-versus-host disease or even second malignancies. Posttransplant care is complex and requires great effort from parents to adhere to difficult treatment regimens. In this article, we address the difficult ethical question of what to do if parents choose not to have their child with SCID undergo HSCT but prefer palliative care.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/c ... 60892.long

Camb Q Healthc Ethics. 2016 Jan;25(1):84-92.

Ethical Dilemmas in Postnatal Treatment of Severe Congenital Hydrocephalus.

Wilkinson D.
Abstract

Severe congenital hydrocephalus manifests as accumulation of a large amount of excess fluid in the brain. It is a paradigmatic example of a condition in which diagnosis is relatively straightforward and long-term survival is usually associated with severe disability. It might be thought that, should parents agree, palliative care and limitation of treatment would be clearly permissible on the basis of the best interests of the infant. However, severe congenital hydrocephalus illustrates some of the neuroethical challenges in pediatrics. The permissibility of withholding or withdrawing treatment is limited by uncertainty in prognosis and the possibility of "palliative harm." Conversely, although there are some situations in which treatment is contrary to the interests of the child, or unreasonable on the grounds of limited resources, acute surgical treatment of hydrocephalus rarely falls into that category.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4721233/