Guys, I think we need this

[Speaker to Animals]

In an unrelated story, men are 17 % weaker in 30 years.
http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog ... ing-weaker

I believe it. Just from my own experience. Most millennial men are weak as shit.

It must be weird for the ones like Okie who joined the military to get out and be surrounded by the norm. Gen X men are still pretty strong, though not like Grandpa. Not by a stretch. Grandpa tossed my uncle clear across the lawn when my uncle said he didn't have to do any lawn work because he went to Danang for two years. Grandpa fought the Japanese Empire and then North Korea.

When tough times arrive.. man.. I don't know. Will people get stronger or will they just buckle?

There is a definite downtrend from Greatest and Silent generations all the way to now.

[Zlaxer]

In an unrelated story, men are 17 % weaker in 30 years.
http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog ... ing-weaker

I believe it. Just from my own experience. Most millennial men are weak as shit.

It must be weird for the ones like Okie who joined the military to get out and be surrounded by the norm. Gen X men are still pretty strong, though not like Grandpa. Not by a stretch. Grandpa tossed my uncle clear across the lawn when my uncle said he didn't have to do any lawn work because he went to Danang for two years. Grandpa fought the Japanese Empire and then North Korea.

When tough times arrive.. man.. I don't know. Will people get stronger or will they just buckle?

There is a definite downtrend from Greatest and Silent generations all the way to now.

Cant figure out if I'm Gen X, Y , or a millennial......what are the dates?


And I'm pretty sure I would have kicked my my 20-30 year old grandfathers ass in a fight, and he was in Korea....

[Speaker to Animals]

In an unrelated story, men are 17 % weaker in 30 years.
http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog ... ing-weaker

I believe it. Just from my own experience. Most millennial men are weak as shit.

It must be weird for the ones like Okie who joined the military to get out and be surrounded by the norm. Gen X men are still pretty strong, though not like Grandpa. Not by a stretch. Grandpa tossed my uncle clear across the lawn when my uncle said he didn't have to do any lawn work because he went to Danang for two years. Grandpa fought the Japanese Empire and then North Korea.

When tough times arrive.. man.. I don't know. Will people get stronger or will they just buckle?

There is a definite downtrend from Greatest and Silent generations all the way to now.

Cant figure out if I'm Gen X, Y , or a millennial......what are the dates?

Generally, late 70s is the cut-off for Gen-X. Some make it a little earlier (like 75 or thereabout).

I think the true dividing line would be when the majority of new parents in a given year were boomers rather than silent generation. I am not sure how to figure that out, though I'd like to know. I know most of the kids I grew up with had mixed parents. I have a boomer mother and a silent generation father. Most people I know who are about five years younger than me have both boomer parents.

I suspect the point at which most parents were boomers was really somewhere around 75 or 76, but then a lot of people who identify as Gen X would not be.

I can't really judge by myself, though, since my paternal line is a little weird. We tend to have kids pretty late with younger women. Paternal grandpa was born in 1874.

[C-Mag]

In an unrelated story, men are 17 % weaker in 30 years.
http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog ... ing-weaker

I believe it. Just from my own experience. Most millennial men are weak as shit.

It must be weird for the ones like Okie who joined the military to get out and be surrounded by the norm. Gen X men are still pretty strong, though not like Grandpa. Not by a stretch. Grandpa tossed my uncle clear across the lawn when my uncle said he didn't have to do any lawn work because he went to Danang for two years. Grandpa fought the Japanese Empire and then North Korea.

When tough times arrive.. man.. I don't know. Will people get stronger or will they just buckle?

There is a definite downtrend from Greatest and Silent generations all the way to now.

Cant figure out if I'm Gen X, Y , or a millennial......what are the dates?


And I'm pretty sure I would have kicked my my 20-30 year old grandfathers ass in a fight, and he was in Korea....

Up to 1965 - Boomer
1966 - 1985 - Gen X
1985 - 2001 - Millenials

These numbers vary +/- a couple years, for instance some put Gen X starting as early as 1963.

[C-Mag]

In an unrelated story, men are 17 % weaker in 30 years.
http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog ... ing-weaker

I believe it. Just from my own experience. Most millennial men are weak as shit.

It must be weird for the ones like Okie who joined the military to get out and be surrounded by the norm. Gen X men are still pretty strong, though not like Grandpa. Not by a stretch. Grandpa tossed my uncle clear across the lawn when my uncle said he didn't have to do any lawn work because he went to Danang for two years. Grandpa fought the Japanese Empire and then North Korea.

When tough times arrive.. man.. I don't know. Will people get stronger or will they just buckle?

There is a definite downtrend from Greatest and Silent generations all the way to now.

Old School Toughness is one of my favorite HH. By the time millenials got to their teen years work had almost effectively been made illegal, in their youth their parents were afraid to let them outside, natural progression. On the other hand my great grandfather was a farmer who was well known in the local area for winning drinks by tearing Silver Dollars in half.......... No Folding, just crushing strength.

[apeman]

Old School Toughness is one of my favorite HH.

Love that one.

All this reminds me of two Carlin lines from that HH, the one about Voltaire's alleged "silk slippers going down, boots going up", and how the Mongols had to send their sons back to the steppe after the captured luxurious cities because the boys would quickly lose their special fighting skills.

[Speaker to Animals]

I think the dates are shifted too far to the right above.

I would end boomer generation long before 1965. By 1965, the majority parents were Silent Generation. Those kids were arguably Gen X.

Greatest Generation got their child-rearing dates pushed forward a bit, so I think the range for boomers is going to be pretty short, honestly.

Silent Generation were all born during or just previous the war years. That's why they were so small in numbers. Their parents were typically too old to get drafted or they already had their kids when they were drafted (I think average draftee age was 35).

This double generational line begins with that war and the pause it inflicted upon reproduction.

Most Silent Generation experienced the Great Depression as young children. Most Greatest Generation experienced it as older children or young adults. When Silent Generation came of age, we were in the 1950s. They were named Silent Generation precisely because they didn't really give a shit about the political climate and remained silent during the McCarthy Hearings, though I suspect many of them were sympathetic to it. It was during this time that the Greatest Generation guys were starting to raise families. Their kids were boomers. But these Greatest Generation guys lost at least four years of reproduction. They all decided to produce kids at once in the early 1950s and that was the baby boom and beginning of the boomer generation.

But Consider that, by the early 1960s, Silent Generation was the predominate parentage of newborns. Almost certainly so. Greatest Generation by that point were already in their forties. No way can you claim that boomers should be cut off in the mid-1960s unless you try to define generations by external trends, which I think is ridiculous and always has been. The most fundamental and greatest shaping force of a generation has been the character of the generation that raises them. For that reason, I think Gen X begins somewhere in the very late 1950s or right away in the 1960s, and probably extends to about the mid 1970s at most. No way does it go into the 1980s. By the late 1970s, the majority of parents were boomers.

[SilverEagle]

I believe it. Just from my own experience. Most millennial men are weak as shit.

It must be weird for the ones like Okie who joined the military to get out and be surrounded by the norm. Gen X men are still pretty strong, though not like Grandpa. Not by a stretch. Grandpa tossed my uncle clear across the lawn when my uncle said he didn't have to do any lawn work because he went to Danang for two years. Grandpa fought the Japanese Empire and then North Korea.

When tough times arrive.. man.. I don't know. Will people get stronger or will they just buckle?

There is a definite downtrend from Greatest and Silent generations all the way to now.

Cant figure out if I'm Gen X, Y , or a millennial......what are the dates?


And I'm pretty sure I would have kicked my my 20-30 year old grandfathers ass in a fight, and he was in Korea....

Up to 1965 - Boomer
1966 - 1985 - Gen X
1985 - 2001 - Millenials

These numbers vary +/- a couple years, for instance some put Gen X starting as early as 1963.

I always thought Gen X was 1965-1980 with the last of Gen X graduating High School in 1998. Hell even in High School you could see a big difference between the class of 1998 and the class of 1999. I know it was only one year but there was a big difference in how those classes acted.

[C-Mag]

@ StA
Strauss and Howe have it more along the lines you are talking about.


They use GI Generation rather than Brokaws 'Greatest' Generation because as they point out, while they went through the Depression, fought and won WWII, as leaders and parents they didn't do a great job for society. They gave us the Boomers, there presidents, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush 41, didn't display a lot of greatness.

[Fife]

GEN XIII

I like it.