Partisan divides over political values widen

[DBTrek]

My goodness, man, we live in a PC culture quickly heading toward Post Modernist Cultural Marxism. How can something so anathema to average Americans being getting such traction unless those few malcontents have their fingers on the buttons?

Could be that we're the dinosaurs, and the new generation is the replacement.
A replacement that will ultimately replace themselves with less naive and self-loathing cultures.

[Martin Hash]

My goodness, man, we live in a PC culture quickly heading toward Post Modernist Cultural Marxism. How can something so anathema to average Americans being getting such traction unless those few malcontents have their fingers on the buttons?

Could be that we're the dinosaurs, and the new generation is the replacement.
A replacement that will ultimately replace themselves with less naive and self-loathing cultures.

I fear that may be the case. My message certainly has no impact, and gets less so. (My goodness, I just learned on this forum that people respect money WAY more than accomplishment. I don't know shit.)

[Martin Hash]

I think people are ready for an aristocracy. Every time I bring it up, most people here defend it, and the upcoming political generation doesn't resonate on the issue. One of Trump's big Tax Reform items is to discontinue Inheritance Tax. If Dems give that away, we can only be a couple generations from a king.

[KerningChameleon]

I think people are ready for an aristocracy. Every time I bring it up, most people here defend it, and the upcoming political generation doesn't resonate on the issue. One of Trump's big Tax Reform items is to discontinue Inheritance Tax. If Dems give that away, we can only be a couple generations from a king.

Original Position Fallacy. People who advocate for that sort of thing always assume they'll be part of the favored and privileged in-group, rather than be one of the masses getting their faces stomped with the boots. That whole "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" mindset.

[Martin Hash]

I think people are ready for an aristocracy. Every time I bring it up, most people here defend it, and the upcoming political generation doesn't resonate on the issue. One of Trump's big Tax Reform items is to discontinue Inheritance Tax. If Dems give that away, we can only be a couple generations from a king.

Original Position Fallacy. People who advocate for that sort of thing always assume they'll be part of the favored and privileged in-group, rather than be one of the masses getting their faces stomped with the boots. That whole "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" mindset.

I'm totally a "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" guy AS LONG AS IT'S REAL, but being a millionaire doesn't lead to being part of the Chosen Ones. I like me sum millionaires, aristocrats, not-so-much.

[Speaker to Animals]

Aristocracies begin as warriors. Many generations later they get soft and either conquered from without, or overthrown by the populace. If the latter, some form of democracy is formed. The plebs begin voting more shit for themselves and more wars for the warrior class. Eventually the state becomes bankrupt and the warriors take over to establish some new form of aristocracy.

I suspect our next feudal phase will be much more organized and probably based upon current military custom rather than inheritence, possibly some kind of elective sysyem where the warriors only elect the top rulers who then appoint whatever is the equivalent of dukes and barons.

Merchants have ALWAYS styled themselves as the next aristocrats. It's really quite cute.

All it will take is one solid collapse of the government by its own hands at some point in the future when the military class has become a completely separate culture from the proles, and they have had quite enough of stupid.

[Martin Hash]

Case in point. ^^^

[Speaker to Animals]

It's just the cycle of things. Wishing won't save democracy now any more than it ever did before. By the end of the cycle, people will be glad to see it go. Then, after a time, the aristocracy will collapse or slowly transform into some form of democracy.

What if none of that really matters? Maybe we need to focus on our culture and our families.

[Fife]

Aristocracies begin as warriors. Many generations later they get soft and either conquered from without, or overthrown by the populace. If the latter, some form of democracy is formed. The plebs begin voting more shit for themselves and more wars for the warrior class. Eventually the state becomes bankrupt and the warriors take over to establish some new form of aristocracy.

I suspect our next feudal phase will be much more organized and probably based upon current military custom rather than inheritence, possibly some kind of elective sysyem where the warriors only elect the top rulers who then appoint whatever is the equivalent of dukes and barons.

Merchants have ALWAYS styled themselves as the next aristocrats. It's really quite cute.

All it will take is one solid collapse of the government by its own hands at some point in the future when the military class has become a completely separate culture from the proles, and they have had quite enough of stupid.

Lieutenant
Sir, I beseech you, think you he'll carry Rome?

AUFIDIUS
All places yield to him ere he sits down;
And the nobility of Rome are his:
The senators and patricians love him too:
The tribunes are no soldiers; and their people
Will be as rash in the repeal, as hasty
To expel him thence. I think he'll be to Rome
As is the osprey to the fish, who takes it
By sovereignty of nature.

[Speaker to Animals]

Aristocracies begin as warriors. Many generations later they get soft and either conquered from without, or overthrown by the populace. If the latter, some form of democracy is formed. The plebs begin voting more shit for themselves and more wars for the warrior class. Eventually the state becomes bankrupt and the warriors take over to establish some new form of aristocracy.

I suspect our next feudal phase will be much more organized and probably based upon current military custom rather than inheritence, possibly some kind of elective sysyem where the warriors only elect the top rulers who then appoint whatever is the equivalent of dukes and barons.

Merchants have ALWAYS styled themselves as the next aristocrats. It's really quite cute.

All it will take is one solid collapse of the government by its own hands at some point in the future when the military class has become a completely separate culture from the proles, and they have had quite enough of stupid.

Lieutenant
Sir, I beseech you, think you he'll carry Rome?

AUFIDIUS
All places yield to him ere he sits down;
And the nobility of Rome are his:
The senators and patricians love him too:
The tribunes are no soldiers; and their people
Will be as rash in the repeal, as hasty
To expel him thence. I think he'll be to Rome
As is the osprey to the fish, who takes it
By sovereignty of nature.

That is how the wheel turns.