TFW SJW/BLM is a Russian Plot to Destroy USA

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Re: TFW SJW/BLM is a Russian Plot to Destroy USA

Post by Ex-California » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:39 am

Lemonade wrote:It may not be a conscious effort, but holy fuck SJWs are doing a shitload of damage.
I'd argue that they are actually helping fix things.

SJW hate is the initial red pill for a lot of people. They start by opposing SJW insanity, and eventually realize the whole Left is insane and Leftist politics are at best utopian and at worst authoritarian.

That's what happened to me
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Re: TFW SJW/BLM is a Russian Plot to Destroy USA

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:00 pm

California wrote:
Lemonade wrote:It may not be a conscious effort, but holy fuck SJWs are doing a shitload of damage.
I'd argue that they are actually helping fix things.

SJW hate is the initial red pill for a lot of people. They start by opposing SJW insanity, and eventually realize the whole Left is insane and Leftist politics are at best utopian and at worst authoritarian.

That's what happened to me
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Re: TFW SJW/BLM is a Russian Plot to Destroy USA

Post by ssu » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:01 pm

kybkh wrote:Is that not the insinuation here?

>Putin buys BLM ads to divide country.
>Country Divides.
>BLM Divides the country.
Oh, quite possible. It isn't at all illogical for Russia to support extremist views in the US both left and right.

And btw, isn't Trump an even bigger divider here, kybkh?

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Post by kybkh » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:18 pm

ssu wrote:
kybkh wrote:Is that not the insinuation here?

>Putin buys BLM ads to divide country.
>Country Divides.
>BLM Divides the country.
Oh, quite possible. It isn't at all illogical for Russia to support extremist views in the US both left and right.

And btw, isn't Trump an even bigger divider here, kybkh?
The batch of more than 3,000 Russian-bought ads that Facebook is preparing to turn over to Congress shows a deep understanding of social divides in American society, with some ads promoting African American rights groups, including Black Lives Matter, and others suggesting that these same groups pose a rising political threat, say people familiar with the covert influence campaign...

The company said it has identified at least $100,000 in ads purchased through 470 phony Facebook pages and accounts. Facebook said this spending represented a tiny fraction of the political advertising on the platform during the 2016 campaign...

Facebook declined to comment on the contents of the ads being turned over to congressional investigators and pointed to a Sept. 6 statement by Alex Stamos, the company’s chief security officer, who noted that the vast majority of the ads run by the 470 pages and accounts did not specifically reference the U.S. presidential election, voting or any particular candidate...


Why would you say that? Because Trump was running during the Ferguson and Baltimore riots??
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Re: TFW SJW/BLM is a Russian Plot to Destroy USA

Post by Lemonade » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:21 pm

California wrote:
Lemonade wrote:It may not be a conscious effort, but holy fuck SJWs are doing a shitload of damage.
I'd argue that they are actually helping fix things.

SJW hate is the initial red pill for a lot of people. They start by opposing SJW insanity, and eventually realize the whole Left is insane and Leftist politics are at best utopian and at worst authoritarian.

That's what happened to me
That's my track as well. It started when they started showing up unannounced in my hobbies.

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Re: TFW SJW/BLM is a Russian Plot to Destroy USA

Post by ssu » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:44 pm

kybkh wrote: Why would you say that? Because Trump was running during the Ferguson and Baltimore riots??
Not that Trump is divider because of Ferguson and Baltimore, just that Trump is a bigger divider in general.

And anyway, Russia will seek to enlarge and social divides and in the end to demoralize people in the US of their own government and institutions. At first it sounds really bizarre why would they do it, but then when you remember that "active measures" like this were part of the KGB's repertoire and the leader of modern day Russia is a KGB career officer, then it starts to make sense.

Putin simply thinks that this is a great way to counter the threat posed by the US.

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Post by kybkh » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:48 pm

ssu wrote:
kybkh wrote: Why would you say that? Because Trump was running during the Ferguson and Baltimore riots??
Not that Trump is divider because of Ferguson and Baltimore, just that Trump is a bigger divider in general.

And anyway, Russia will seek to enlarge and social divides and in the end to demoralize people in the US of their own government and institutions. At first it sounds really bizarre why would they do it, but then when you remember that "active measures" like this were part of the KGB's repertoire and the leader of modern day Russia is a KGB career officer, then it starts to make sense.

Putin simply thinks that this is a great way to counter the threat posed by the US.
What threat do we pose? What, are we attempting to divide Russian politics and weaken Putin or something. Sheesh, I am just happy to know our FoPo is so inept it doesn't function in the most obvious and simple manners like produce propaganda.
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Re: TFW SJW/BLM is a Russian Plot to Destroy USA

Post by apeman » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:49 pm

Lemonade wrote:
California wrote:
Lemonade wrote:It may not be a conscious effort, but holy fuck SJWs are doing a shitload of damage.
I'd argue that they are actually helping fix things.

SJW hate is the initial red pill for a lot of people. They start by opposing SJW insanity, and eventually realize the whole Left is insane and Leftist politics are at best utopian and at worst authoritarian.

That's what happened to me
That's my track as well. It started when they started showing up unannounced in my hobbies.
Duuuuuuuuuude

mountainproject.com is the primary site for rock climbing stuff. Forum threads were about best approaches, deals on gear, where to camp, what gear to bring, is this a safe anchor, etc., with half the post just being humor and in-group snark.

Over the last 2 years, the SJW infiltration has been astounding. Look at the current most active thread:
https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/t ... n-climbing
Inclusive Language and diversity in climbing
There is absolutely no conspiracy to keep minorities away from climbing. But now, every other person is concerned with how climbing is dominated by white males, etc.

The shit they write just makes no sense. Like wtf does this mean:
Being a brown, Native woman, I know it’s struggle on a daily basis. Moreover, I know it’s a struggle in the outdoor recreation scene.

It’s a struggle trying to convince white people why brown people should be made a place in the sport I dearly love: climbing.
My black friends would rather die than go camping, never mind climbing.

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Re: TFW SJW/BLM is a Russian Plot to Destroy USA

Post by ssu » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:58 pm

kybkh wrote: What threat do we pose? What, are we attempting to divide Russian politics and weaken Putin or something. Sheesh, I am just happy to know our FoPo is so inept it doesn't function in the most obvious and simple manners like produce propaganda.
You don't know anything about Russians.

And if you don't believe (as you don't), then just check Smitty's comments about the subject why Putin needs an enemy.

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Re: TFW SJW/BLM is a Russian Plot to Destroy USA

Post by BjornP » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:03 pm

kybkh wrote:Is that not the insinuation here?

>Putin buys BLM ads to divide country.
>Country Divides.
>BLM Divides the country.
Russia is simply interested in undermining its geopolitical rivals' power like they've been for a long time. Fanning the flames of pre-existing domestic US conflicts, is a logical step in that direction. For example, Americans have distrusted their own government since the late '60's, but both the Soviets and the Russian Fed. used/use propaganda to try and worsen that distrust. An ungovernable nation is a nation that can easier be outplayed, after all.
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