America vs the rest of the world. What would happen?

[Ph64]

Without nukes we'd need to reinstate the draft probably, but the US would kick ass.

With nukes, IMHO, we might still kick ass but I'm not sure you'd like the remains of the country after.

The sad truth is that a nuclear exchange might actually fix our problems pretty fast. Think about it. Most of the cities and all the liberals would evaporate up into mushroom clouds. It would just be red districts left.

It'd fix our political problems. It'd just leaves us with the fallout, probably melting down nuke plants spewing more stuff too, huge amounts of infrastructure damage... wouldn't be pretty on a physical survival level. Wonder if Russia has nukes targeted at the Yellowstone caldera? I would if I were them, could take out 2/3 of the country's crops that way.

[Speaker to Animals]

Without nukes we'd need to reinstate the draft probably, but the US would kick ass.

With nukes, IMHO, we might still kick ass but I'm not sure you'd like the remains of the country after.

The sad truth is that a nuclear exchange might actually fix our problems pretty fast. Think about it. Most of the cities and all the liberals would evaporate up into mushroom clouds. It would just be red districts left.

It'd fix our political problems. It'd just leaves us with the fallout, probably melting down nuke plants spewing more stuff too, huge amounts of infrastructure damage... wouldn't be pretty on a physical survival level. Wonder if Russia has nukes targeted at the Yellowstone caldera? I would if I were them, could take out 2/3 of the country's crops that way.

It would take a long time to clean up, but we could deal with it. The way things are going, the Marxist urbanites are going to get themselves incinerated anyway. Look at how much they wanted war with Russia in that last election and now this Russia conspiracy. Might as well discuss how to clean up their ashes and maybe start a new convention that results in a social contract that ensures this never happens again.

I am serious too. We ought to prepare for the day that the democrats finally get themselves wiped off the map. Trump isn't doing anything to destroy that fucking party for good, so it's only a matter of time before somebody even more dangerous than Hillary takes control.

[heydaralon]

We would have been able to defeat the world with one hand tied behind our backs, until Trump endangered our national security by removing transgendered people out of the military. Historically speaking, trans people have always been the best warriors and fight harder and smarter than the mongol or centurion. They also do not crack under pressure, and their minds are clear, which is essential for a good soldier. Im quite worried that our military will not ever recover from this loss and as we become serfs for the Russians and Chinese we may look back on the ban as the end of the American Empire.

[C-Mag]

Conventional, we Lose. Too much to defend, too many axis of advance for everyone else.

Not sure we could win a serious 2 front war right now.

[Smitty-48]

Get real, folks, you couldn't even beat Malaysia, on your best day, like, stick to Grenada & Co, if you know what's good for yeas, America, because, you're butter soft, newflash; you're gonna get your asses handed to you, in pretty much every war you fight from here on out, you'd do yourselves a favour, to just embrace peacefull coexistence already.

And hey, don't get any ideas, just cause I picked Malaysia at random, that's 30 million SE Asian Muslims, the VIet Cong and the Taliban all rolled into one, they'd chew you up and spit you out, so don't even think about it.

[jediuser598]

Americans, numbering 330 million have to face a world numbering 7.17 billion. Outnumbered 21:1.

According to the CIA, the US is third when it comes to GDP, behind EU and China.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... 1rank.html

I would think population and GDP would certainly factor in when we're considering total war. Not only that but we lose collaboration with the rest of the world. All trade, all information sharing, the internet goes down right away. Sure we have lots of natural resources, but do we have enough to wage war for long? (this is in the conventional warfare scenario)

[Smitty-48]

As soon as you declared war on the rest of the world, US treasuries would collapse, King Dollar would be unhorsed and unheaded, so factor that into your GDP, you're gonna be fighting this war, while most of you are living under a bridge at home, trying to sell apples in the streets, just sayun'.

The rest of the world is propping you up, absent the rest of the world rendering unto King Dollar, you're actually broke several times over. That fancy military you have now, that's all financed by your creditors, if you go to war against your creditors, that military goes away and it goes away fast, it's actually a very delicate instrument, without the constant debt financed cash flow, the Pentagon is reduced to sticks and stones, in a matter of months, so if you think you're going to be able to keep the B-2 bombers and nuclear submarines, you'd better think twice, you'd be like the Russians in the early 90's, with a big boneyard of formerly hi-tech weapons which you could no longer afford to maintain.

[heydaralon]

As soon as you declared war on the rest of the world, US treasuries would collapse, King Dollar would be unhorsed and unheaded, so factor that into your GDP, you're gonna be fighting this war, while most of you are living under a bridge at home, trying to sell apples in the streets, just sayun'.

The rest of the world is propping you up, absent the rest of the world rendering unto King Dollar, you're actually broke several times over. That fancy military you have now, that's all financed by your creditors, if you go to war against your creditors, that military goes away and it goes away fast, it's actually a very delicate instrument, without the constant debt financed cash flow, the Pentagon is reduced to sticks and stones, in a matter of months, so if you think you're going to be able to keep the B-2 bombers and nuclear submarines, you'd better think twice, you'd be like the Russians in the early 90's, with a big boneyard of formerly hi-tech weapons which you could no longer afford to maintain.

If we go down Toronto will be the first city that we ICBM. Its not personal, you guys just know too much.

[Viktorthepirate]

We wouldn't be able to mass produce much of what we use now. Do you know how long it takes to make our aircraft?

Depending on what weaponry is available EMP bursts could fuck us pretty hard as well.

Against our technological equals (or at least kind of close to us) we would have a very hard time.

And that doesn't take into account that the war goes nuclear the minute one side starts losing.

[clubgop]

If we are playing straight GI Joe sure you might have a point but will this be over before the next IPhone comes out? How much pain will fucking millenials endure honestly? They have it the best and they whine like bitches. They are near intolerable now.