Heather Heyer Died of a Heart Attack

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Re: Heather Heyer Died of a Heart Attack

Post by DBTrek » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:35 am

Fringe Media Outlets Smear Heather Heyer, Alleging She Died by Heart Attack, Not a Raging White Supremacist

http://www.theroot.com/fringe-media-out ... 1803069261
Sometimes the best way to get to the truth is to read the opinions of both extremes. Above is an article in The Root, offering their opinion on what is going on.

I didn't find what I was looking for, which was evidence that the heart attack claim is false.
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Re: Heather Heyer Died of a Heart Attack

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:39 am

@StA,

You seem a lot more motivated to prove Fields' innocence than I am to prove his guilt. I only responded to the idea that Heyer dying of a heart attack automatically meant that she wasn't killed as a result of being hit with a car.
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Re: Heather Heyer Died of a Heart Attack

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:51 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:@StA,

You seem a lot more motivated to prove Fields' innocence than I am to prove his guilt. I only responded to the idea that Heyer dying of a heart attack automatically meant that she wasn't killed as a result of being hit with a car.

No. That's another area where you are WRONG. If Fields is guilty, I want him gassed.

What I find absolutely stunning is how at least half a dozen Antifa who caused this to happen are not charged with felony murder, and yet you are so willing to want Fields to hang despite the evidence casting enormous doubt on the democratic party government's case.

This is the civil rights era all over again. The democrats are waging a war of terror on their opponents in the streets by pulling the police back while their militia goons (this time Antifa) attack people with impunity. Then the democrat prosecutors and police chiefs charge the demonstrators who were attacked and demonize them as the instigators when it was, in fact, the DEMOCRATS who caused it.

Correct me if I am wrong: if a gang of people attacks somebody with deadly weapons, and the person they attacked tries to escape immanent bodily harm and possibly death only to collide with pedestrians, then the attacking gang of people are guilty of felony murder, not the victim in the car.

Maybe apply the law equally to all involved, genius. I am tired of the double standards from you people. If they can prove Fields intentionally did this -- which right now seems woefully and laughably impossible -- then I am all for gassing him. But from the evidence I see, the people who should be getting gassed are about half a dozen Antifa goons for felony murder, and yet they are walking free and clear while you pull your chest hairs out over the person they attacked.

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Re: Heather Heyer Died of a Heart Attack

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:54 am

It's reached the point where the left is willing to let MURDERERS walk free because of politics, and then they have the gall to accuse the rest of us of doing what they are doing. It's fucking bonkers.

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Re: Heather Heyer Died of a Heart Attack

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:56 am

You keep saying I have an opinion about Fields guilt or innocence that I don't recall expressing.
Correct me if I am wrong: if a gang of people attacks somebody with deadly weapons, and the people try to escape immanent bodily harm and possibly death only to collide with pedestrians, then the gang of people are guilty of felony murder, not the victim in the car.
I really have no idea who should be held responsible here... which is why I think it is a good thing we have a system for adjudicating difficult cases.

If you are worried about double standards, no need. I am not all that excited about gassing anybody.
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Re: Heather Heyer Died of a Heart Attack

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:01 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:You keep saying I have an opinion about Fields guilt or innocence that I don't recall expressing.
Correct me if I am wrong: if a gang of people attacks somebody with deadly weapons, and the people try to escape immanent bodily harm and possibly death only to collide with pedestrians, then the gang of people are guilty of felony murder, not the victim in the car.
I really have no idea who should be held responsible here... which is why I think it is a good thing we have a system for adjudicating difficult cases.

If you are worried about double standards, no need. I am not all that excited about gassing anybody.

No idea. I see.

You don't seem to have any problem with a group of leftists attacking Fields with baseball bats and lead pipes. You don't see any problem with charging Fields for any damages that resulted from Antifa attacking him and him trying to escape imminent bodily harm. You already concluded that Fields is a terrorists and "plowed into people", while you equivocate over the felonious instigators of the crash even though we all can clearly see them attacking Fields with deadly weapons right there on the street.

This is why the democratic party needs to die. If Fields is to be charged with anything, then surely the people who started this whole thing by attacking him with deadly weapons should be charged with felony murder. Yet you people have no problem selectively applying the law according to your politics.

It's really outrageous.

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Re: Heather Heyer Died of a Heart Attack

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:05 am

Now, when you say you, are talking about me... or is that just a sort of general, royal you.

He did 'plow into people.' I didn't call him a terrorist, nor did I convict him of anything. Maybe a court will find that it was justified.
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Re: Heather Heyer Died of a Heart Attack

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:23 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Now, when you say you, are talking about me... or is that just a sort of general, royal you.

He did 'plow into people.' I didn't call him a terrorist, nor did I convict him of anything. Maybe a court will find that it was justified.

I am talking about both you and the mainstream liberal crowd who are willing to go balls to the wall to convict Fields based on flimsy evidence and an obviously propagandic MSM narrative, while saying NOTHING about the fact that the people who initially attacked fields with deadly weapons which caused this entire mess are still free and probably not going to get charged by the democratic party police and prosecutors.

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Re: Heather Heyer Died of a Heart Attack

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:30 am

Ah... me and everything ever said in the MSM you have ever disagreed with is wrapped up in you.

Combine that with being held accountable for things I didn't say, but you think I should say and, by golly, it is almost impossible to have a conversation.

Am I also responsible for the Kangaroo Court you are certain is going to unfairly pursue Fields, or is that a different, sinister, shadow society.
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Re: Heather Heyer Died of a Heart Attack

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:33 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Nothing about my disagreement with far right ideology hinges upon some dipshit going off the res and mowing down a crowd in his car.

^^^ Seemed pretty clear what you implied here.


He either "went off the res and mowed down a crowd", or he was trying to escape the mob of Antifa attacking him with deadly weapons. If I am on the jury, the video evidence of him first being attacked by people with deadly weapons is going to create enough reasonable doubt that he was trying to escape imminent bodily harm. The fact that you can see them chasing the car and continue to attack would reinforce my conclusion. Then there is the fact that you can see him slamming on his breaks before he goes into the crowd, which would sort of cast doubt on the "dipshit going off the res and mowing down a crowd" narrative.

But most of all, I would want to know why the police and prosecutors don't seem concerned about crowds of people attacking their fellow Americans with deadly weapons.. That's a real humdinger of a double standard.