Nazi Boston Tea Party

[Speaker to Animals]

How do you guys feel about this analogy:

Antifa : Clodius :: Alt-Right Neo Nazis : Milo

No.

Clodius would have all of Antifa murdered in a single night.

Alt-right is more like Clodius, honestly.

The idea is less the brutal scale and more views and order. Clodius made a gang and held Rome hostage to push reforms, Milo made one in response to equalize the situation and give the Romans freedom again, as Antifa came before the Alt-Right and was a major cause of it.

These SJWs, and especially Antifa, are more like the Bacchus cultists and rebels in the servile wars, whom Clodius slaughtered with great relish. Clodius' ostensible goals were to advance the interests of the plebs to get them a more favorable deal in the aftermath of the reforms instituted by Sulla. Clodius had no desire to see Roman civilization in ruins. Not a great analogy.

Look more towards the Spartacans, really. And, no, they weren't all noble like you see in the movies. They were vile and degenerate just like Antifa.

[de officiis]

Apparently it's over and folks are going home. Nothing to report.

[katarn]

No.

Clodius would have all of Antifa murdered in a single night.

Alt-right is more like Clodius, honestly.

The idea is less the brutal scale and more views and order. Clodius made a gang and held Rome hostage to push reforms, Milo made one in response to equalize the situation and give the Romans freedom again, as Antifa came before the Alt-Right and was a major cause of it.

These SJWs, and especially Antifa, are more like the Bacchus cultists and rebels in the servile wars, whom Clodius slaughtered with great relish. Clodius' ostensible goals were to advance the interests of the plebs to get them a more favorable deal in the aftermath of the reforms instituted by Sulla. Clodius had no desire to see Roman civilization in ruins. Not a great analogy.

Look more towards the Spartacans, really. And, no, they weren't all noble like you see in the movies. They were vile and degenerate just like Antifa.

In their minds, Antifa doesn't want to see society destroyed, just reformed to eliminate everything they find annoying. I understand your thinking that SJWs=Bacchanalians, but that isn't what I'm asking. I'll add to the question. How does the analogy stack up in terms of political cause and effect- not your sense that Antifa is like a Bacchus cult, which I don't disagree with, but find beside the point I'm trying to ask about.

[Speaker to Animals]

Apparently it's over and folks are going home. Nothing to report.

Looks like the police were doing their jobs and kept them separated as much as possible this time.

[Speaker to Animals]

The idea is less the brutal scale and more views and order. Clodius made a gang and held Rome hostage to push reforms, Milo made one in response to equalize the situation and give the Romans freedom again, as Antifa came before the Alt-Right and was a major cause of it.

These SJWs, and especially Antifa, are more like the Bacchus cultists and rebels in the servile wars, whom Clodius slaughtered with great relish. Clodius' ostensible goals were to advance the interests of the plebs to get them a more favorable deal in the aftermath of the reforms instituted by Sulla. Clodius had no desire to see Roman civilization in ruins. Not a great analogy.

Look more towards the Spartacans, really. And, no, they weren't all noble like you see in the movies. They were vile and degenerate just like Antifa.

In their minds, Antifa doesn't want to see society destroyed, just reformed to eliminate everything they find annoying. I understand your thinking that SJWs=Bacchanalians, but that isn't what I'm asking. I'll add to the question. How does the analogy stack up in terms of political cause and effect- not your sense that Antifa is like a Bacchus cult, which I don't disagree with, but find beside the point I'm trying to ask about.

I could say the same thing about the Servile Wars. Or the French Revolution. Or the Russian Revolution. Cuba. Venezuela. China.

[katarn]

[Speaker to Animals]

That in their minds they thought they were doing something at least justifiable in the sense that the people trying to defend civilization deserved to be killed, if not outright delusional belief that they were absolutely in the right.

My main point here is that the likes of Clodius really had nothing in common with our cultural marxists. If you look at the descriptions of the Bacchus cults, and the Servile Wars in the particular, you will find groups of people (which included quite a lot of Romans I might add) who wanted no servants and no masters, everybody is "equal", etc. Sexual mores were abolished. All the riotous violence ensued.

Clodius had a coherent political message and definite political goals *within* the Roman system. He didn't want to destroy Roman culture or the entire framework of Roman government. Clodius Pulcher annihilated the ancient equivalent of SJWs in southern Italy, helping to crucify them for miles along the Appian Way.

It's a big mistake to try to connect these cultural marxists with more legitimate forms of lower-class political interests in history. You are buying into the sham narrative these marxists spin to justify themselves. It's sort of like how feminists (a 1960s-era cultural marxist hate group) somehow convinced everybody that suffragettes were "first wave feminists" in order to lend credibility to feminism. Don't get snowed.

[katarn]

I see. I pretty much agree with that summation, except the last bit. I'm not trying to connect the actions of Antifa and Clodius by their beliefs or the reasonability of their actions. I was trying to highlight a common trend that violence and extremism beget violence and extremism.

[Zlaxer]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... clash.html

Thousands of anti-fascist protesters swarmed to a 'free speech' rally in Boston on Saturday afternoon
The right-wing group was vastly outnumbered by the chanting estimated 15,000 counter-protesters
To deter any violence from happening, the city of Boston armed the streets with 500 police officers
The city mayor warned counter-protesters to stay away from the event but they still flocked to the rally
Around an hour after the rally's start time of noon, the few who came for the free speech event left
Local police helped escort the right-wing speakers from the enclosed area and took them away from the park
President Trump tweeted: 'Looks like many anti-police agitators in Boston. Police are looking tough and smart! Thank you'
A similar protest between alt-right groups and opponents injured dozens and left a woman dead in Charlottesville last week


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[katarn]

Sounds like it isn't impossible to have these things blow up into violence like Charlottesville. Was this rally marketed as just free speech and portrayed as nazi or was it another nazi based one?