Palin v. New York Times

[Fife]

I forgot to post the statements she's suing over:

Was this attack evidence of how vicious American politics has become? Probably. In 2011, when Jared Lee Loughner opened fire in a supermarket parking lot, grievously wounding Representative Gabby Giffords and killing six people, including a 9-year-old girl, the link to political incitement was clear. Before the shooting, Sarah Palin’s political action committee circulated a map of targeted electoral districts that put Ms. Giffords and 19 other Democrats under stylized crosshairs.

Conservatives and right-wing media were quick on Wednesday to demand forceful condemnation of hate speech and crimes by anti-Trump liberals. They’re right. Though there’s no sign of incitement as direct as in the Giffords attack, liberals should of course hold themselves to the same standard of decency that they ask of the right.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170615031 ... .html?_r=0






Also, here are a couple of pretty good run-downs on the issues if anyone is interested:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... 4d032a2b9d
(pretty good take on both sides' arguments)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/er ... 9f7977d707
(just a take on the complaint; but some interesting twitter posts cited also)

[Speaker to Animals]

It shouldn't be a double standard. She should share equal protection under the law, and these fake news outlets should go down like Gawker.

[Martin Hash]

Palin is crossing into "I'm offended" territory.

p.s. Even a private citizen can have insinuations hurled at them without being libel. Libel is "she killed those people with her own gun" and the paper knew otherwise.

[Speaker to Animals]

Palin is crossing into "I'm offended" territory.

p.s. Even a private citizen can have insinuations hurled at them without being libel. Libel is "she killed those people with her own gun" and the paper knew otherwise.

Was this attack evidence of how vicious American politics has become? Probably. In 2011, when Jared Lee Loughner opened fire in a supermarket parking lot, grievously wounding Representative Gabby Giffords and killing six people, including a 9-year-old girl, the link to political incitement was clear. Before the shooting, Sarah Palin’s political action committee circulated a map of targeted electoral districts that put Ms. Giffords and 19 other Democrats under stylized crosshairs.

If the "link to political incitement was clear", then the link to libel is clear as well.

[Martin Hash]

If the "link to political incitement was clear", then the link to libel is clear as well.

If that was true, every call for a AntiFa demonstration would be libel.

[Fife]

Palin is crossing into "I'm offended" territory.

p.s. Even a private citizen can have insinuations hurled at them without being libel. Libel is "she killed those people with her own gun" and the paper knew otherwise.

She "crossed over" 110% when she filed a lawsuit for damages. What's wrong with doing that? Is there some reason Palin should be disqualified from filing a lawsuit, any more than Rev. Jerry Falwell was against Larry Flynt? Falwell took his shot and lost; why shouldn't Palin have the same option?


"she killed those people with her own gun" : "there’s no sign of incitement as direct as in the Giffords attack" :: the plaintiff directly caused violence : the plaintiff _____________

[Fife]

If the "link to political incitement was clear", then the link to libel is clear as well.

If that was true, every call for a AntiFa demonstration would be libel.

The truth of the matter asserted is an absolute defense to a defamation case.

Were you out sick some days in Torts II? :snicker:

[Martin Hash]

Different argument: she can use the legal system just like her opponents do, but hypocracy is being against something then doing it anyway.

p.s. I'm a hypocrite when it comes to exploiting tax "loopholes" like Capital Gains treatment,

[Fife]

I didn't know she was opposed to lawsuits. How Un-American. In that case, she is indeed a hypocrite. That is inadmissible in her case against the NYT, though, I expect.