The Destroyer of All Western Values

[C-Mag]

So Trump is calling out the imbalance in NATO funding, that Germany isn't carrying it's fair share... heaven forbid someone who dips their toes in the pool pay their fare share.

Just happened to have this readily available

Does that include all US defense spending? The cost for the nuclear arsenal is under the department of energy now. I think VA is beside as well. What else?

My understanding this has little to do with what the US spends on it's own defense. This is 3.61 % of the total US GDP that get's paid to NATO. The US is No 2 in the world in GDP, so we are footing a larger bill anyway. Our GDP is approx. $ 18.5 Trillion, which would mean $ 667 Billion to NATO

Note: The US is top of the world in GDP per capita, US Citizens put up the Lions Share of money to keep NATO afloat.
Western Nations as a whole are 3-5X as productive as Non-Western nations.
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/in ... nomies.asp

[Smitty-48]

This is 3.61 % of the total US GDP that get's paid to NATO.

Fake news ^^^

The US does not contribute its entire defense budget to NATO, total US funding of NATO is $460 million a year, which represents 0.05% of the US defense budget.

Again, the Washington Treaty does not bind the Americans to contribute anything specifically to NATO, quite the oppisite, the actaul US forces tasked to NATO, is practically nothing, some headquarters personnel, that's about it. If it's not OPCOM/OPCON to NATO, it's not NATO.

[The Conservative]

460 Million on NATO, and we get what out of it...? A wagged finger at because we don't play ball? Cripes... give me a break.

Go ahead and take a break, goober, take a lap too, there's no country in NATO which hasn't met its obligations to the NATO budget, regardless of what they spend overall, if you want to be the first NATO country not to meet its obligations to NATO, go right ahead, NATO is not a country, nobody answers to NATO, it's just a headquarters in Brussels, big whoop.

We have met and surpassed for quite some time. It's time for the other countries that demand protection to stand up and be counted.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Not even remotely accurate. Bad showing, C-mag.

[Smitty-48]

We have met and surpassed for quite some time. It's time for the other countries that demand protection to stand up and be counted.

You haven't "surpassed" anything, your defense budget and what you contribute to NATO are two totally different things, and the only country in NATO which has ever had to be protected, is the United States, the only NATO member ever, to invoke Article V.

It's time for other countries to simply ignore the jib-jabber-blubbering of American goober-hayseeds, is more like it.

[Smitty-48]

For those of you following at home, who are not goober-hayseeds, also bear in mind, even the US forces which are in Europe now, are not OPCOM/OPCON to NATO, SACEUR is "double hatted", the chain of command for those US forces does not run through SHAPE, it's all EUCOM, which is not NATO.

Same thing in Afghanistan, when NATO had to send forces to protect the United States, US forces in Afghanistan; CENTCOM, not NATO.

[Martin Hash]

If nobody even knows what NATO is, time to get rid of it. Why is there even a question? Because U.S. service personnel want to get stationed someplace exotic?

Fuck NATO, time to move on.

[Smitty-48]

If nobody even knows what NATO is, time to get rid of it. Why is there even a question? Because U.S. service personnel want to get stationed someplace exotic?

Fuck NATO, time to move on.

Sure, go ahead, NATO is your show, so when's that gonna happen? You gonna do something, little birdies, or are you just gonna keep chirppin'?

Bear in mind, we're not giving you another dime, you can go fuck your hats, so there it is, we just knocked that block off your shoulder, what'cha gonna do about it, bitch?

[C-Mag]

This is 3.61 % of the total US GDP that get's paid to NATO.

Fake news ^^^

Shut Up and Pay your Damn Bills.

[TheReal_ND]

I have become President, destroyer of worlds