The pitchforks are coming... for us plutocrats

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Re: The pitchforks are coming... for us plutocrats

Post by jbird4049 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:15 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:This fellow doesn't even know his history, whether it was Bourbon France, Imperial Russia, or Weimar Germany, in none of those cases was "inequality" actaully the catalyst for revolution, in all three cases, the catalyst was that the state first suffered a catastrophic loss in a world war, and then went flat broke as a result, so call me when America loses a war for all the marbles catastrophically, and then goes flat broke, otherwise, I wouldn't hold your breath, Bolshies.

Well yes, the French King hadn't called the national Parlement in over a century with the tax collection system becoming evermore dysfunctional (it didn't help that everyone everywhere wanted to hold onto all their financial privaledges.) Their financing the Americans in their revolution didn't help. Similar problems with the Russians. A country full of poor people with a corruption dysfunctional government that also lost not one but two wars, including most of the navy. It was primed to fall. Losing a war, or two, does not cause a healthy government to collapse. And yes, an impoverishment population, with both the Nazi and the Communists Parties actively trying to disrupt an already creaky government in Germany.

In all three cases the general population was already poor, or being made poor, well the French were having crop failures, along with non functioning governments right after losing wars. In all cases the appeals for patriotism, or loyalty to the Church, or the established social order failed.

If the countries had had a government effectively dealing with its problems, or the population not dealing with proverty, and hunger, especially in France and Russia, or perhaps the elites not so effectively rewarded themselves.

Claiming it was war that caused the collapse is mistaken.

My country is starting to match that template. Feh.


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Re: The pitchforks are coming... for us plutocrats

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:17 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
He did a speech just like on TedTalk, which at least for a while disappeared. It was still on the site, just really buried. If I remember right, one day it was listed like all the other talks, which I easily found. Then soon after...

There was a ruckus at the time. Heh, several talks were likewise buried.

Can't have those inconvenient ideas floating around and giving the proles the desire to rise above their station now can we?
Like we're proles. :lol:

Instantaneous communication worldwide. Fucking Pharaohs could have only dreamed.
And the wealth disparity is on par with Pharonic Egypt
No the fuck it is not. Under the Pharaohs, there was no private property. There was no wealth disparity. The Pharaoh owned everything. Even the merchants, who traded as far as India, were simply agents of the Pharaoh. They didn't have a one percent, or a .1%. They had a one. The one. The fucking god king.

and even the one god king who owned every fucking thing in Egypt did not have the ability that you have. Pharaoh would have given you three pyramids to have what you have. Forget air conditioning, you have the fucking wheel. You are a king among the ages, and you're here pretending to be a prole. Get the fuck out of here with that.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:23 pm

Actually the priesthood owned property as well. Generals too iirc.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:23 pm

jbird4049 wrote:[Claiming it was war that caused the collapse is mistaken.

My country is starting to match that template. Feh.
Lost a war catastrophically and went flat broke, neither of which is the case in the United States, so I wouldn't be too concerned, you laughable Millenial pretend socialist fuckwit, but go ahead and fantasize about it, fill your boots. Feh.
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Post by jbird4049 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:24 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:I'm an American socialist, and I tend to agree.

All this increasing pressure will probably lead to an explosion.
Whatevs, in the event of, the first people to be shot, will be the American socialists; no skin off my teeth, good riddance.
And it will an honor as I do consider my myself as on the side of the angels. :angelic-blueglow:

;-)

But don't worry the mob might come for too! Someone might accuse you of revolutionary or counter revolutionary tendencies.

Joking aside, in such situations where your loyalties lie often means zip. :-(
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Re: The pitchforks are coming... for us plutocrats

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:29 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:I'm an American socialist, and I tend to agree.

All this increasing pressure will probably lead to an explosion.
Whatevs, in the event of, the first people to be shot, will be the American socialists; no skin off my teeth, good riddance.
And it will an honor as I do consider my myself as on the side of the angels. :angelic-blueglow:

;-)

But don't worry the mob might come for too! Someone might accuse you of revolutionary or counter revolutionary tendencies.

Joking aside, in such situations where your loyalties lie often means zip. :-(
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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:33 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:Actually the priesthood owned property as well. Generals too iirc.
Not in the old kingdom.

Bro, do you even zigurrat?

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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:34 pm

The ziggurat is in Iraq. And yes the old kingdom experienced a minor civil war when the King taxed the priest class for the first time.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:36 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:The ziggurat is in Iraq. And yes the old kingdom experienced a minor civil war when the King taxed the priest class for the first time.
When the Nile didn't flood.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:39 pm

Tell your professor you want your money back dog.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_re ... ient_Egypt

I'm tired. You weren't being facetious were you. You meant when it literally didn't flood, I get it.