Social Justice Warriors Thread

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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:09 am

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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by C-Mag » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:54 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:16 am
C-Mag wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:08 am
Social Justice is about revenge and punishment for perceived wrongs of the past.

Social Justice has nothing to do with equality, not between men and women, and not between races.
Social justice is about righting actual wrongs and is all about equality.

Are you sure you are not falsely equating social justice with the aims of social justice warriors again Carlus?

By all means educate me.
Lay out the differences and the policy differences of the two.
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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:08 am

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:54 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:16 am
C-Mag wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:08 am
Social Justice is about revenge and punishment for perceived wrongs of the past.

Social Justice has nothing to do with equality, not between men and women, and not between races.
Social justice is about righting actual wrongs and is all about equality.

Are you sure you are not falsely equating social justice with the aims of social justice warriors again Carlus?

By all means educate me.
Lay out the differences and the policy differences of the two.
I thought I just did.
One is about equality and the other is about retribution.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by C-Mag » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:31 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:08 am
C-Mag wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:54 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:16 am


Social justice is about righting actual wrongs and is all about equality.

Are you sure you are not falsely equating social justice with the aims of social justice warriors again Carlus?

By all means educate me.
Lay out the differences and the policy differences of the two.
I thought I just did.
One is about equality and the other is about retribution.
Do you have some examples or policy differences ? Or is this just your opinion ?
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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:33 am

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:31 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:08 am
C-Mag wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:54 am



By all means educate me.
Lay out the differences and the policy differences of the two.
I thought I just did.
One is about equality and the other is about retribution.
Do you have some examples or policy differences ? Or is this just your opinion ?
Finally, someone gets it...
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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by C-Mag » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:49 am

The Conservative wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:33 am

Finally, someone gets it...
I might be confused because Real Social Justice hasn't been tried yet.
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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by Haumana » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:14 am

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:49 am

I might be confused because Real Socialist Justice hasn't been tried yet.
FIFY. :twisted:

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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:17 am

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:31 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:08 am
C-Mag wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:54 am



By all means educate me.
Lay out the differences and the policy differences of the two.
I thought I just did.
One is about equality and the other is about retribution.
Do you have some examples or policy differences ? Or is this just your opinion ?
Magna Carta - barons fighting for early social justice (habeas corpus etc)

slavery reparations - SJW

Peasants revolt, Ketts rebellion, one man one vote, 19th-century factory reform act - all social justice movements

Transgender bathrooms, compulsory pronouns, violent protests to overturn free and fair elections - SJW
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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by PartyOf5 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:53 pm

This is the kind of confusion and disconnect you get when progressives co-opt words and terms and try and make them into something else. This isn't a dig on Monte, it's an intentional misdirection by progressives, in this cases the SJWs themselves. They will tell you they are fighting for Social Justice, but rational people can see that is not the case. They are trying to use normal people's understanding or social justice to get away with the revenge and punishment C-Mag referred to.

Just like they have tried to turn Nationalist into meaning racist Nazi.

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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:11 pm

Who co-opted the words?
Looks like it was Gamergate proponents and the likes of 4chan...
Dating back to 1824, the term social justice refers to justice on a societal level.[9] From the early 1990s to the early 2000s, social-justice warrior was used as a neutral or complimentary phrase,[1] as when a 1991 Montreal Gazette article describes union activist Michel Chartrand as a "Quebec nationalist and social-justice warrior".[1]

Katherine Martin, the head of U.S. dictionaries at Oxford University Press, said in 2015 that "[a]ll of the examples I've seen until quite recently are lionizing the person".[1] As of 2015, the Oxford English Dictionary had not done a full search for the earliest usage.[1] According to Martin, the term switched from primarily positive to negative around 2011, when it was first used as an insult on Twitter.[1] The same year, an Urban Dictionary entry for the term also appeared.[1] The term's negative use became mainstream due to the 2014 Gamergate controversy,[11] emerging as the favoured term of Gamergate proponents to describe their ideological opponents.[1] In Internet and video game culture the phrase is broadly associated with the Gamergate controversy and wider culture war fallout, including the 2015 Sad Puppies campaign that affected the Hugo Awards.[2][5][12][13][14][excessive citations] Usage of the term as a pejorative was popularized on websites such as Reddit,[15] 4chan,[15] and Twitter.
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